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Oct 5, 2023 21:34:47   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Are there still Trump defenders? Just curious.


Some will take this as an opportunity to deflect. There is no way to prevent that, so sit back and enjoy the show if that's what they choose. Is that because they are Trump defenders without the courage to say so?

It really is a simple question, not one of "Innocent until proven guilty." Will Trump defenders identify themself?

It's true that I have a strong negative opinion about him. I'm up front about that. How about you?

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Oct 6, 2023 02:58:18   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga. jumped on this with fervor, stating earlier in the week that Trump is the only candidate for Speaker she is currently supporting.

"If Trump becomes Speaker of the House, the House chamber will be like a Trump rally everyday," she wrote to X (formerly Twitter.) Adding, "It would be the House of MAGA!!!"

To this, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer replied quickly after, giving that a hard pass by way of a real zinger, writing, "No thanks, we’re good. We’ve seen a Trump rally at the Capitol already."

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Oct 6, 2023 06:53:44   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Traitors to our country will continue to defend him with attacks on Biden. Imagine being so stupid as to presume disdain for trump means support for Biden.

Lol, one can already hear the attacks!

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Oct 6, 2023 10:02:34   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Are there still Trump defenders? Just curious.


Some will take this as an opportunity to deflect. There is no way to prevent that, so sit back and enjoy the show if that's what they choose. Is that because they are Trump defenders without the courage to say so?

It really is a simple question, not one of "Innocent until proven guilty." Will Trump defenders identify themself?

It's true that I have a strong negative opinion about him. I'm up front about that. How about you?
Are there still Trump defenders? Just curious. br ... (show quote)


Please explain exactly your definition of Trump defender. Is it a cultist who thinks Trump can do no wrong and pledges allegiance to him or is it simple someone who is not afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome such as yourself?

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Oct 6, 2023 10:06:21   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
Please explain exactly your definition of Trump defender. Is it a cultist who thinks Trump can do no wrong and pledges allegiance to him or is it simple someone who is not afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome such as yourself?


As opposed to those afflicted with BTS?

While I don't believe you are, you do hover about the fringes.

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Oct 6, 2023 10:08:20   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
DaveO wrote:
As opposed to those afflicted with BTS?


That's certainly a topic worthy of discussion, but the question was asked about Trump defenders.

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Oct 6, 2023 10:10:12   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
That's certainly a topic worthy of discussion, but the question was asked about Trump defenders.


Oh, so bringing TDS into the discussion was immaterial and not at all germaine.

How much fun can be had on a Friday morning! LOL!

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Oct 6, 2023 10:21:03   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
DaveO wrote:
Oh, so bringing TDS into the discussion was immaterial and not at all germaine.

How much fun can be had on a Friday morning! LOL!


Yes it's very material to the discussion. Before someone can answer a question you have to know the parameters. Is someone considered a defender of Trump if they don't spend all day thinking about "what about Trump can I be outraged about now?"

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Oct 6, 2023 10:21:21   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
Please explain exactly your definition of Trump defender. Is it a cultist who thinks Trump can do no wrong and pledges allegiance to him or is it simple someone who is not afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome such as yourself?


(Trump defender definition is a challenge, I suppose. Let's just say it is somebody that still believes that his legal battles are politically motivated and not based on fact? Or somebody that still donates money to this billionaire?_

Perhaps somebody that will vote for him... no matter what he is accused of doing.

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Oct 6, 2023 10:38:34   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
I don't believe Trump will take the Speaker of the House job.
The problem for Trump is that it would actually involve working, and we all know that's not one of his favorite things. On the upside, Lauren Boebert has promised to give him a, "hand".

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Oct 6, 2023 10:42:03   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
Yes it's very material to the discussion. Before someone can answer a question you have to know the parameters. Is someone considered a defender of Trump if they don't spend all day thinking about "what about Trump can I be outraged about now?"


Somehow I don't believe an in depth analysis will lead to much, if anything fruitful.

Most Attic forum replies are superficial at best and should not be deemed very serious. I suppose there are a few who think they've entered a Mensa Meeting, but that's okay too.

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Oct 6, 2023 10:42:59   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
(Trump defender definition is a challenge, I suppose. Let's just say it is somebody that still believes that his legal battles are politically motivated and not based on fact? Or somebody that still donates money to this billionaire?_

Perhaps somebody that will vote for him... no matter what he is accused of doing.


Safe enough, now we can all relax!

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Oct 6, 2023 11:11:56   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
(Trump defender definition is a challenge, I suppose. Let's just say it is somebody that still believes that his legal battles are politically motivated and not based on fact? Or somebody that still donates money to this billionaire?_

Perhaps somebody that will vote for him... no matter what he is accused of doing.


You seem to be contradicting yourself a little. You seem to be agreeing with my term of cultists here. But I went back and read the op and you seem to be saying that if you defend Trump at all on anything you're a "defender."
Why is the concept that people can not care for someone but still defend them on certain matters so hard for you to grasp?
There are numerous people on here of the leftist persuasion who profess to have no .love for Biden but will constantly defend him.How is that any different?
As to another point you brought up, yes, SOME of his trials are politically motivated. Stormy Daniels, the rape case, and the current real estate fraud case.

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Oct 6, 2023 11:22:58   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
You seem to be contradicting yourself a little. You seem to be agreeing with my term of cultists here. But I went back and read the op and you seem to be saying that if you defend Trump at all on anything you're a "defender."
Why is the concept that people can not care for someone but still defend them on certain matters so hard for you to grasp?
There are numerous people on here of the leftist persuasion who profess to have no .love for Biden but will constantly defend him.How is that any different?
As to another point you brought up, yes, SOME of his trials are politically motivated. Stormy Daniels, the rape case, and the current real estate fraud case.
You seem to be contradicting yourself a little. Yo... (show quote)



"yes, SOME of his trials are politically motivated. Stormy Daniels, the rape case, and the current real estate fraud case."


What facts do you base this on?

Just because Trump says something doesn't mean it isn't true, but based on his record, his word should never be used to advance something, or in support of anything. The enemy of your enemy isn't automatically your friend. I'm sure Trump has said things that are true. I'm not sure it was on purpose. I'm quite sure that truth has never been a deciding factor in whether or not he says something.

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Oct 6, 2023 11:35:17   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
thom w wrote:
"yes, SOME of his trials are politically motivated. Stormy Daniels, the rape case, and the current real estate fraud case."

What facts do you base this on?


What do I base it on? The fact that I'm not stupid is what I base it on. How about the fact the statute of limitations had expired in the Daniels case and then all kinds of crazy legal theories were cobbled together to get around the law? How about the fact the jury ruled Trump didn't rape the crazy woman and still rule he "defamed" her when he claimed he didn't rape her? How about the fact Leticia James ran on a platform of "Get Trump?" How is a New York judge qualified to rule on the value of Florida real estate values? Who are the damaged parties? The banks didn't sue. They got paid back all their money and made quite a lot of interest.

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