My Nikon Zf (Page 3): The town where my father was a teenager and rode down the street roping Senoritas, Sonora, was swallowed up by an open pit mine now. I remember it whole then bit...

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

rehess wrote:

I noticed things ‘changing forever’ when I was young, which is why I adopted the slogan “capture today before tomorrow comes and things change”.

The town where my father was a teenager and rode down the street roping Senoritas, Sonora, was swallowed up by an open pit mine now. I remember it whole then bit by bit disappearing into the mine.

Randyfrieder Loc: Long Island, New York

rehess wrote:

I noticed things ‘changing forever’ when I was young, which is why I adopted the slogan “capture today before tomorrow comes and things change”.

So very true

Randyfrieder Loc: Long Island, New York

rehess wrote:

People do talk of film using past tense. Yesterday morning I did have film in my Pentax camera, but then I went shooting. By the end of the day, I was delivering that film to the camera store to be developed, in the present text. These cameras can still do what they were built to do; I hope that is true of the Nikon Zf whatever 40 years from now.

To me, I do think of my film cameras in the past tense. For 32 years, I ran thousands and thousands of rolls of film through them.
I enjoyed using each and every one.
Every few years, Nikon introduced a new camera, with new features. And I bought them.
In 2002, Nikon introduced a new camera, and I bought it. The d100, with its amazing 6 megapixels!!
For a few years prior, I had already switched to scanning my film, with a high end Nikon film scanner. So, I was very ready to capture my images digitally, to avoid all the expense of film and processing.
The way I look at, these were my tools, I used them, enjoyed them, but to me… they are no longer useful to me.
I really don’t see any reason or advantage to putting a roll of film, in any one of them.
My Z9 and D850, D810, and a large collection of trinity lenses, in both F and Z mounts, plus all my big, wide, and macro glass, allows me to take advantage of amazing technology, autofocus with subject and eye detection, VR in the lens, IBIS in the body, etc. wireless flash control, and so much more. Additionally, I use a pair of one terabyte cards, so I don’t ever have to worry about “running out of film”.
I bet, that, like me, a lot of people have their old plug-in corded hand drill, saws, etc.
I would also be willing to bet, that they don’t use them, because the advantages of cordless tools are many.
So, while I don’t have any problem with anyone using a 50 year old camera, with 36 exposure rolls of film, I will continue to admire the film cameras in my collection, and enjoy the memories they bring back to me.
When I want to be creative, and take fine art photos, or satisfy a client’s requests,shoot an event, capture a wedding and all the guests, or shoot musicians doing what they do, in really low and changing lighting, I am happy and definitely blessed, to be able to make use of the best technology that 50 years ago, wasn’t even a dream.
As mentioned, I see no advantage to film,
having been there and done that,
but I respect that you do.
And that is the best point,
we still have choices.
I don’t care what someone uses to capture the moment, I am just happy that they are making the memory.
When I am shooting a wedding, I am very aware of our mortality, and I will always make sure that I get extra coverage of the grandparents, and older guests, for that reason.
Having an unlimited supply of digital media, lets me do that with no additional expense. I am free to shoot as much as I want, without the bean counters laughing at me. My use case involves me taking around ten thousand photos a week, averaged out. Film is just not practical.

I have no problem when someone pulls out an old drill, chucks a drill bit, locks it in with the chuck key, then plugs it in (that order is important), and drills the one little hole that they needed!!!
As for me,
I am very happy with
my cordless tools.
YMMV
IMHO
📸 Regards, Randy 📸

I am an old man,
but I like the new stuff!!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Randyfrieder wrote:

To me, I do think of my film cameras in the past tense. For 32 years, I ran thousands and thousands of rolls of film through them.
I enjoyed using each and every one.
Every few years, Nikon introduced a new camera, with new features. And I bought them. !

I purchased my first 35mm camera in 1969. Including that one, I have now owned a total of ten 35mm and digital cameras.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Randyfrieder wrote:

To me, I do think of my film cameras in the past t... (show quote)

When I was shooting film, I never looked for a new model to buy. I began with a Miranda Sensorex, and I later got a Nikon F Photomic. That was it till I went digital with the D90. I bought nine more Nikon D cameras after that, but that includes Ds that my son bought, too. And then the Z bodies came along.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

jerryc41 wrote:

When I was shooting film, I never looked for a new model to buy. I began with a Miranda Sensorex, and I later got a Nikon F Photomic. That was it till I went digital with the D90. I bought nine more Nikon D cameras after that, but that includes Ds that my son bought, too. And then the Z bodies came along.

In the age of film, we could change the film we used; now the camera manufacturers have trained some of us to purchase camera after camera - I guess this is their way of making up for having fewer users.

BebuLamar

rehess wrote:

In the age of film, we could change the film we used; now the camera manufacturers have trained some of us to purchase camera after camera - I guess this is their way of making up for having fewer users.

Fewer users? There are a lot more people buying cameras today than in the time when Jerry bought his Nikon F. Back in that time much fewer people have cameras. And yes I do not count phones.

Randyfrieder Loc: Long Island, New York

rehess wrote:

I purchased my first 35mm camera in 1969. Including that one, I have now owned a total of ten 35mm and digital cameras.

Very cool!

Randyfrieder Loc: Long Island, New York

jerryc41 wrote:

When I was shooting film, I never looked for a new model to buy. I began with a Miranda Sensorex, and I later got a Nikon F Photomic. That was it till I went digital with the D90. I bought nine more Nikon D cameras after that, but that includes Ds that my son bought, too. And then the Z bodies came along.

While I admire your using your using the Nikon F body, for all those years, you missed out on all the innovation that came along with each new body.
Different metering systems, built in motors, auto focus, ttl flash, and so many others.
I like to use the newest and the best. There is no way that I can use every function of my camera, but regarding the ones that I do use, I want the fastest focus, the most accurate exposure, high frame rates, etc.
there is no question that the F camera can still do what it did, back then, today, but…
As for me, give me the newest tech and let me loose.
I shot 1600 pictures in a half an hour, during my last shoot, I was the exclusive photographer for the shinnecock Indian nation, opening ceremonies. Sorry, but I can’t worry about my kit not keeping up with me.
Obviously, we have different use cases. I have clients who expect me to use whatever gear, that will give them the images they require. I expect the same from my gear.
Ymmv
IMHO
📸 Regards, Randy 📸

Randyfrieder Loc: Long Island, New York

rehess wrote:

In the age of film, we could change the film we used; now the camera manufacturers have trained some of us to purchase camera after camera - I guess this is their way of making up for having fewer users.

As previously mentioned by others, camera sales are on the rise.
I guess that means that users are appreciating the new technology and features that are now available.
I don’t believe the manufacturers have trained any of us. When I make a new purchase, I do so, because the new item will enhance my photography. Offer a new feature that lets me get a photo that I couldn’t before, I want it.
If that’s training, then ok!!

Anyway, ask my ex-wife,
I can’t be trained!!!

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

jerryc41 wrote:

From the reviews I've seen, it sounds like a great camera. Unfortunately, it's black, rather than silver, so I won't be getting one. They have different-colored body vinyl, but not a silver body. Bad decision.

I prefer all black bodies. I refuse to own a chrome body. However, that cobalt blue finish looks nice.