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Sep 24, 2023 09:22:23   #
Vaun's photography Loc: Bonney Lake, WA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
You have to understand the UHH Canon fanboys will be quick to strike here if you even dare to suggest leaving Canon for Sony, or any other brand, but certainly not to Sony OMG, LOL

As a former longtime Canon and Nikon user that moved over to Sony, I have a different perspective than others. I suggest you look at the excellent fullframe 33mp Sony A7IV; or the even smaller and lighter fullframe 33mp Sony A7CII or fullframe 61mp Sony A7CR cameras. Either will give you great performance with the superb Sony 200-600mm lens.

As far as mirrorless-designed lenses go, the Sony E-mount is the most widely produced and used mirrorless lens mount in the world with over 200 + (and growing) choices from Sony and excellent third-party lenses from Sigma, Tamron, Samyang/Rokinon, Zeiss, Tokina, TTArtisan, Viltrox, Meike and others. No other mirrorless camera brand has as many mirrorless-designed lenses as there are for Sony E-mount.

And these E-mount lenses encompass many compact and lightweight, yet still excellent quality and affordable mirrorless-designed lens choices from Sony and all the third-party makers. Third-party makers today leaked another 13 new E-mount lenses coming before the end of the year, as well as new ones coming from Sony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_E-mount_lenses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_Sony_E-mount_lenses


If you prefer higher megapixel resolution and still want to go for Sony, by all means the 61mp A7RV or 61mp A7CR are superb and less costly than the higher frame-rate 50mp A1

1) Here 50mp Sony A1, Sony 200-600mm lens. A Snowy Egret takes off from its watery perch on the island of Sint Maarten/Sint Martin. 319mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/4000 sec. handheld. Bird Eye-AF used.

2) Here a shot with my 61mp Sony A7RIV, the same 61mp sensor in the new compact Sony A7CR, or Sony A7RV. The Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, California, USA. Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN lens. 24mm , ISO 200, f8, 1/80 sec., handheld, late afternoon light.

Click in download to see better image quality.

Sony A7CII and A7CR Camera Review: Mark Galer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iq3Mn85LNk

Sony A7RV:
https://electronics.sony.com/imaging/interchangeable-lens-cameras/full-frame/p/ilce7rm5-b

Full disclosure: After 40+ years shooting pro Nikon, Canon, Leica, and winning National and Worldwide Photo Awards with them all, I moved over to Sony mirrorless and have never regretted it for all my professional and personal work shooting all subjects, all around the world. I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, A7RIV, and I currently own A7RV, A1, A7SIII. I currently have 13 E-mount lenses covering 10mm to 600mm from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Viltrox.

And interestingly, though not perhaps for what you shoot, top Worldwide News Services have moved exclusively to Sony and Nikon mirrorless for all the staff photographers and staff videographers, worldwide. None of the top Worldwide News Services chose to move to Canon mirrorless for their staffers, none.

Associated Press, all Gannett media including USA, Canadian Press, UK's top News Service all chose to move exclusively to Sony mirrorless for all their staffers worldwide, after years of testing Sony gear in the field around the world. AFP (Agence France Presse) helped develop and test the Nikon Z9, and they use Nikon Z9 for their staffers worldwide.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Cheers and best to you, whatever you decide.
You have to understand the UHH Canon fanboys will ... (show quote)


Gerald, I really like your bridge and surf spray photo!

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Sep 24, 2023 09:32:58   #
BebuLamar
 
Perhaps just hire somebody to carry all the gears for you. You can afford all those gears you should be able to afford the porters. May be someone to push the shutter release button too.

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Sep 24, 2023 09:34:59   #
Canisdirus
 
Zooman 1 wrote:
As I have reached 80, I find my R5 and RF100-500mm, which I like very much are too heavy for me to carry, left and hold. I am thinking about Switching to Sony with the 200-600mm, not sure which camera. Any thoughts?


I don't believe you will be saving any weight with your lens choice.

But it is a big improvement performance wise...the Canon is way overpriced to begin with.
It's not a 'bright' at 500mm as the Sony is at 600mm.
The Sony has an internal throw system...which is buttery smooth...and I do mean buttery smooth.
You will be able to rack your focal length back and forth with...one finger...and never lose the subject in the frame.
The Canon has an external throw...and you will need to have your hand on it to move back and forth...which also throws the weight up front (Sony barely changes).

Of course you could alter the way you shoot...use a tripod and a nice fluid head.
Between the fluid head and the Sony lens...operation will be super fast and a breeze...and your tripod will stay balanced.

Body...heck that new A7CR and A7C II both look like real winners...cameras with a lot of options...and small in the hand (nice).

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Sep 24, 2023 09:35:27   #
Peteso Loc: Blacks Hills
 
“80…too heavy…” I’m surprised that no responses included the OM1 M43, with the Pro lenses. Of course, there are compromises that come with less weight, but image quality is still nothing to scoff at. I am 76 and I use both my Olympus and Sony A7R4, depending on how long I need to carry my gear and what I am shooting. For example, for fast moving images such as birds and sports, it’s hard to beat the Olympus ProCapture features. Just another option to think about that is responsive to the question…

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Sep 24, 2023 09:40:23   #
BebuLamar
 
Peteso wrote:
“80…too heavy…” I’m surprised that no responses included the OM1 M43, with the Pro lenses. Of course, there are compromises that come with less weight, but image quality is still nothing to scoff at. I am 76 and I use both my Olympus and Sony A7R4, depending on how long I need to carry my gear and what I am shooting. For example, for fast moving images such as birds and sports, it’s hard to beat the Olympus ProCapture features. Just another option to think about that is responsive to the question…
“80…too heavy…” I’m surprised that no responses i... (show quote)


Because the OP said "Considering change to Sony" why suggest something else?

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Sep 24, 2023 09:49:36   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Because the OP said "Considering change to Sony" why suggest something else?


The actual quote was, “I find my R5 and RF100-500mm, WHICH I LIKE VERY MUCH are too heavy for me to carry, lift and hold. I am thinking about Switching to Sony with the 200-600mm”. The OP’s premise is that the Sony system will be lighter. It won’t, it will be heavier. So the only real answer if he needs to maintain the “reach” of a long tele, is to go to a smaller format. Hence the suggestions to consider APS-C or 4/3.

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Sep 24, 2023 09:53:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Because the OP said "Considering change to Sony" why suggest something else?




It seems every time a member asks a specific question and wants that question answered there will be numerous answers to not one question asked. Then the discussion goes off on a tangent or three while other members argue/discuss those tangents where the OP had no interest.

Dennis

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Sep 24, 2023 09:57:58   #
Peteso Loc: Blacks Hills
 
"Like very much" and "too heavy...to carry" are mutually exclusive. To lighten the load, there are other options which many on this forum like very much, as well.

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Sep 24, 2023 09:59:31   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Zooman 1 wrote:
As I have reached 80, I find my R5 and RF100-500mm, which I like very much are too heavy for me to carry, left and hold. I am thinking about Switching to Sony with the 200-600mm, not sure which camera. Any thoughts?


NO weight savings here ! - tho you might be trying to use "weight savings" to justify your GAS......

If you are SERIOUS about weight and Sony, look at the RX10m4.

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Sep 24, 2023 10:10:58   #
cyclespeed Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
 
Seems to me all choices would still be given serious consideration if the OP did a little investigation into resistance training to up his strength and minimize the fatigue factor.
Cheers to all.

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Sep 24, 2023 10:11:00   #
Canisdirus
 
TriX wrote:
The actual quote was, “I find my R5 and RF100-500mm, WHICH I LIKE VERY MUCH are too heavy for me to carry, lift and hold. I am thinking about Switching to Sony with the 200-600mm”. The OP’s premise is that the Sony system will be lighter. It won’t, it will be heavier. So the only real answer if he needs to maintain the “reach” of a long tele, is to go to a smaller format. Hence the suggestions to consider APS-C or 4/3.


As if he hasn't looked into it already...

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Sep 24, 2023 11:09:06   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Won't the 500mm part of the 200-500 work for long shots? Am I missing something?

Dennis


People here face a problem and tend to immediately jump to the most radical, most expensive, most disruptive solution. The OP told us that he loves his Canon system, but is willing to dump it all because he can't get his long shots. I suggested that he look at a solution that solves his stated problem, not scorch the earth by dumping everything.

We learn in later posts, in fact, that the switch to Sony he is proposing isn't going to solve anything. It's actually going to move him in the opposite direction. He will have dumped the system he likes to no benefit.

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Sep 24, 2023 11:17:54   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Because the OP said "Considering change to Sony" why suggest something else?


Because, that is what we are here for - giving ideas that may not have been thought of .......

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Sep 24, 2023 11:21:25   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Zooman 1 wrote:
As I have reached 80, I find my R5 and RF100-500mm, which I like very much are too heavy for me to carry, left and hold. I am thinking about Switching to Sony with the 200-600mm, not sure which camera. Any thoughts?


I do not think your will the the Sony anything other than an ergonomic nightmare.

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Sep 24, 2023 11:36:47   #
photoman43
 
The only real way to get significant weight savings is to switch to a system that uses a smaller sensor like micro 4/3 cameras with matching lenses. And if you do the real weight savings are in the lenses-- a 300mm lens for such a camera has a 35mm equivalent focal length of 600mm for Canon, Nikon and Sony frame sensor cameras. One such system is by Olympus.

More weight savings take place if you use a camera with a 1 inch sensor.

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