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Sep 22, 2023 11:54:34   #
levinton
 
Indeed Fujifilm has had a retro look with very practical adjustments with physical knobs for years. Nikon is catching up.

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Sep 22, 2023 12:16:46   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Zfc/16-50mm zoom kits are avaialable refurbished from Nikon for the next 4 days for $799.95 for those who feel the need for one. Don't know what colors are available.

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Sep 22, 2023 12:20:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
larryepage wrote:
Zfc/16-50mm zoom kits are avaialable refurbished from Nikon for the next 4 days for $799.95 for those who feel the need for one. Don't know what colors are available.


As Henry Ford used to say (sort of), "You can have any color you want, as long as it's black or silver." I have the silver (top) and black (bottom).

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Sep 22, 2023 12:30:26   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
As Henry Ford used to say (sort of), "You can have any color you want, as long as it's black or silver." I have the silver (top) and black (bottom).


Henry Ford didn't offer silver.

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Sep 22, 2023 12:46:37   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Henry Ford didn't offer silver.

The point was that choices are limited sometimes.

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Sep 22, 2023 12:56:16   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
The point was that choices are limited sometimes.


Henry idea was you need no choice.

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Sep 22, 2023 13:00:34   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
rehess wrote:
I do prefer external controls over menus, and I am thrilled that the current Pentax model for digital cameras allows me to change all three legs of the ‘exposure triangle’ without using any menu item.



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Sep 22, 2023 13:04:59   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Henry idea was you need no choice.


He didn't have much competition at the time.

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Sep 22, 2023 13:06:00   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
charles brown wrote:
Late last year I replaced all of my Nikon DX cameras and lenses with a full frame system. I decided that I would treat myself to a new FF system before I got too old to use it, am 82 years old. I wanted to continue using a Nikon and really liked the looks and feel of the retro Nikon Zfc that reminded me of the first camera that I owned, a Canon Ftb that I bought in 1976. However, the Zfc is a DX camera. Given my limited budget and upon advice of my nephew (teaches photography and manages a media center for a county school system) I bought a Canon RP and four RF lenses to go with it. It takes excellent images and has all of the features that I want. However, at a recent family reunion I was talking with my nephew and found myself telling him that while the Canon RP is an excellent camera, I wasn't happy using it. It just didn't feel right in my hands and I didn't enjoy using it. I have now decided that when the new Nikon Zf becomes available, I will find out how it feels in my hands and if it feels good I will trade in the Canon camera and lenses for the new Nikon. Yes, I know switching systems is costing me money but at my age I think that how a camera feels in my hands is more important than having all the latest bells and whistles.
Late last year I replaced all of my Nikon DX camer... (show quote)



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Sep 22, 2023 18:42:00   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Hi Carl!

Here's the way I see the answer to your question.

I have never done the statistics but my observation is most of the interest in this and many other photography forumes is GEAR. Many have taken their gear-loyalty to the level of a religion, cult, or life's philosophy. If you disagree with some of them, they will react with sarcasm, wisecracks, and sadly vitriol. rather than friendly debate, many threads become chaotic and combative. It's childish and unnecessary.

Many folks will pose questions, perhaps about lighting, composition, or othere techniques but they often start off with "I shoot Nikon, Canon, or whatever. Many, at first, don't even mention that they shoot landscapes, birds, portraits, insects, and architecture, or whatever! They are not asking about lens or flash compatibility and the camera make and model have nothing to do with the question. Many feel that changing equipment is the answer to all their issues when it is actually their technique.

Many of the problems that these folks are trying to solve are indeed equipment-based. They are spending so much time struggling and fiddling with gear trying to tame all the gadgets and automation, that they can't concentrate on what they are shooting.

I am not reactionary and I certainly like some of the latest innovations. I have been teaching photography and training new photograhers for a long time. The new kids are always clamoring about gear. I start off with the basic features a camera and lens need to be operational a shutter, a diaphragm, and a focusing mechanism. All the rest is convenience.

When I started in the business, I was in the wedding and portrait trade. We shot with large and medium format cameras with no automation- all manual! We shot with flash, available light, and mixed lighting, under all kinds of conditions. The color lab printed the images on automatic printers- no burng, dodging, or radical corrections. The jobs had to have even exposure throughout- good composition- there was limited cropping available. We managed! We were no geniuses or magicians- it was just basic skills.

If anyone wants to shoot film with older cameras the are millions still out there- they were not obliterated. If yo prefer the latest top-of-the-line digital wonder or anything in between- go for it. But don't "shoot Canon,Nikon, Sony, or whatever- shoot pictures- it's more fun!
Hi Carl! br br Here's the way I see the answer to... (show quote)


"... they can't concentrate on what they are shooting."

Great comment E. L.

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Sep 22, 2023 18:58:13   #
AnotherBob
 
OldCADuser wrote:
The first camera that I had that was more than a Kodak 'box camera' was an Agfa Silette (see image below).........

During my Sophomore year in college I acquired my first 35mm SLR, a Minolta SR-1. That was replaced in 1969 when my brother got me a Minolta SRT-101.


My first non-Kodak-box camera was also an Agfa Silette; probably bought about 1963 from my local dealer. That was replaced by a pair of Minolta SRT-101s, one for me, one for my wife, the first one bought from Bromfield Camera, the second from Underground Camera, both Boston stores. I still sometimes use the Rokkor lenses on my Z6. Great fun.

I don't dislike the new retro-Nikons, but the looks alone would not convince me to buy one.

For those of us who are not professional photographers......don't forget that this is all about having fun. Whatever makes you happy.....

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Sep 22, 2023 20:48:55   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
The Agfa was my father's camera, but he 'loaned' it to me in 1965 when I was a senior in high school, until I got something better, which was the Minolta SR-1 that I didn't get until almost three years later in 1968. It was a year or so after that that my brother sent me the SRT-101, with which I took over 4,600 photos before I upgraded to my Minolta XG-M in 1982. My last 35mm camera was a Minolta X-700, that I bought used in 2002 from a factory repair rep when the XG-M jammed, after taking over 5,400 photos, most using the add-on motor drive. After only about 550 photos, I retired the X-700 as I was starting to move to digital in a big way.

My first digital camera was a Canon PowerShot S10 that I bought in 2000. About a year later I bought a Canon IXUS V and gave the S10 to my wife. I liked the IXUS as it was small and I was traveling a lot, so it was very convenient (took over 2,300 images with it), but I was still shooting film for my serious stuff. However, in 2006 I finally retired that X-700 when I bought my first DLSR, a Sony A100.

I stuck with the Sony A100 until 2012, after 4,200+ images, when a co-worker sold me his nearly new Sony A65 body (he decided to go full-frame). I only used it as my mainline camera for about three years and only shot a bit over 2,000 images with it. What happened was that I bought a Sony NEX-3N in 2013, one of their first mirrorless, interchangeable lens cameras, ostensibly for my wife, but I really liked the small size and started to use it when I was traveling. I finally decided to go mirrorless full-time, but I didn't want to downgrade my image size. The A65 used a 24.3Mp sensor while the NEX was only 16.1Mp. However, by then Sony was selling the a6000, which had basically the same sensor, 24.3Mp, as the A65, so that's what I switched to in 2016.

The Sony a6000 was my mainline camera until 2020 when I bought my current Sony a6500.

Note that while I've fully retired all of my film-based gear, as well as the Sony A100 (the Sony NEX-3N died on me after 2,100 images), I've occasionally had a need for the Sony A65 (like in 2017 when I wanted to set-up two high-end cameras to shot the total eclipse in August of that year, and which I plan to do again in October and next April for those eclipses). Also, the Sony a6000 is now part of my macro-kit. That leaves my Sony a6500 and the occasional shot taken with my Apple iPhone 11 Pro (which takes pretty good pictures and of course, is always with me). Note that my wife has stopped using any sort of 'camera' since we got our first iPhones (she uses a iPhone 13 Pro Max) despite the fact that I bought her a Sony DSC-HX400V in 2018 (its taken less than 100 images).

All in all, my photo archive, consisting of virtually every photo (or at least the ones that we've kept) taken by my wife and I (from at least the early 60's), currently numbers 55,507 images. This includes both film (scanned images) and digital, with the breakdown being 17,421 scanned images, and 38,086 digital images. And note that the archive is managed by a scheme I developed using the FileMaker Pro database application, which is fully searchable and includes thumbnail images. The photos themselves are stored on multiple hard-drives as well as solid-state media (at least three sets, stored in two different physical locations in fire-resistant containers).

Sorry for the long response, but I got started and just forgot to stop ;-)

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Sep 22, 2023 23:24:26   #
worldcycle Loc: Stateline, Nevada
 
MrBob wrote:
If you could buy a 57 Chevy Bel Air hardtop with fuel injection off the showroom floor right now would you be excited... I would depending on price Ha Ha.


Yea, but go to any car show and 57 Chevy's are a dime a dozen. I think the kids that had them when I was a kid still have the same car as an adult.

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Sep 23, 2023 07:53:20   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
worldcycle wrote:
Yea, but go to any car show and 57 Chevy's are a dime a dozen. I think the kids that had them when I was a kid still have the same car as an adult.


That was just my .20 opinion.... Can I get 24 of them ? Ha Ha... I think we all wish for things we always wished for when we were young...

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Sep 23, 2023 09:33:17   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
MrBob wrote:
If you could buy a 57 Chevy Bel Air hardtop with fuel injection off the showroom floor right now would you be excited... I would depending on price Ha Ha.



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