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Sep 20, 2023 13:14:13   #
elee950021 Loc: New York, NY
 
Hi all!

I would love a retro-looking camera such as the original Nikon F SLR or the Nikon SP Rangefinder which would use regular Nikkor DSLR lenses with the F-mount. Tons of lenses out there looking for a dedicated digital body!

Be well! Ed

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Sep 20, 2023 13:28:14   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Longshadow wrote:

I don't care what my camera looks like either. As long as it takes nice pictures and is easy to use.
If Canon came out with a body that looked like an AE-1, Ftb, or F1 I would not buy it based on looks.


Because you believe in purchasing performance over superficial looks over a demonstrably inferior product by today's standards.
Including poor AF compared to other brands.
Ps, rolling shutter is horrid on the Zf.

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Sep 20, 2023 13:32:13   #
srg
 
OldCADuser wrote:
Sorry about the mix-up with the Zf and Zfc. I didn't drill-down far enough to realize that the 'c' probably stood for 'cropped' and not 'chrome', but you have to admit, they look nearly identical (but the 28mm lens should have been a hint since that's a bit odd for a full-frame prime lens):


It's less ergonomic. Therefore cool and expensive.
Wait till they go back to tri-X only.
Only the 1% will be able to afford them.

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Sep 20, 2023 14:18:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
What’s the point of our photography? Everything seems absurd until someone admires our equipment.

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Sep 20, 2023 14:31:39   #
MrBossHK Loc: The West Valley of Phoenix metro area
 
It seems as if "Format Changes" are currently trending.

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Sep 20, 2023 14:43:36   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
OldCADuser wrote:
Technically you're correct, the Nikon Zf is only available in black, but the Nikon Zfc is the same camera in chrome, and in fact, was introduced first, I guess to help reinforce that 'retro-look'. Note that the last chrome camera I had was a Minolta XG-M which I bought in 1982.


The ZF is full frame, the Z fc is DX format. Basically, the Z fc is a Z 50 in a retro body.

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Sep 20, 2023 14:50:03   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
What’s the point of our photography? Everything seems absurd until someone admires our equipment.


Like I always tell my wife as she wobbles down the street in her 4 inch heels... " Form before function "

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Sep 20, 2023 15:34:10   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
OldCADuser wrote:
I just saw an advert for the new Nikon Zf series of full-frame mirrorless cameras and they're really pushing this 'retro-look'. I don't know, but first off, one of the reasons, at least this is how I see it, in going mirrorless was so that camera designers would no longer be locked into a configuration dictated by the optical path of a mirror and viewfinder.

And to make this 'retro-look' even more pronounced, it appears that they're moving more of the controls back to dedicated knobs on the top of the camera. All they're missing is a faux film-advance and hinge on the side of the body.

Now I'll be the first to acknowledge that the LCD screen-based menu systems on many digital cameras can be frustrating (after all, I own Sony cameras ;-) but things have gotten better and with the introduction of customizable buttons (my Sony a6500 has three), you can at least program the most common option settings that you need quick access to.

Anyway, what do others think of this effort...

Disclaimer: I've never owned a Nikon, film-based or otherwise, and have been mirrorless since 2013 when I bought a Sony NEX-3N. My current mainline camera is a Sony a6500, but I've still got an a6000 and a A65 DSLR, which are occasionally called into service.

To see what I mean about this Nikon 'retro-look', here's what the new Zf looks like. Note that it's also available in all-black so at least they're not going all the way back into camera history to get this new look:
I just saw an advert for the new Nikon Zf series o... (show quote)


Back in the day when cameras looked like this we used to pay extra to get a black one.

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Sep 20, 2023 15:42:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
MrBob wrote:
Like I always tell my wife as she wobbles down the street in her 4 inch heels... " Form before function "


If high heels were so wonderful, men would be wearing them.

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Sep 20, 2023 15:48:05   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If high heels were so wonderful, men would be wearing them.


But I think more men would buy the Zf than woman. I really wonder if any woman would buy either the Zf or Zfc.

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Sep 20, 2023 15:48:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If high heels were so wonderful, men would be wearing them.


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Sep 20, 2023 15:48:52   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
OldCADuser wrote:
…. Anyway, what do others think of this effort...

I think it’s all about sales. Nikon had a retro DSLR called the Df that was popular.

What I have always liked about Nikon’s is they feel more like cameras and less like computers. I want to put my attention to the subject at hand and not to figuring out how to setup a computer.

The idea of a camera that has a simple interface with easily accessible buttons or knobs for salient adjustments, more like the SLRs of yore, definitely appeals to me.

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Sep 20, 2023 15:51:44   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If high heels were so wonderful, men would be wearing them.

What do you mean “would be”? Haven’t you kept up on current events?

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Sep 20, 2023 16:58:51   #
gwilliams6
 
larryepage wrote:
Actually, it's only available in black, with various colors of leatherette available.

The funny thing to me is that the target market is young folks from 25-35 or so, but they are getting gobbled up by older folks who already have much better cameras. I took a stroll thrugh the detailed information on the NikonUSA website this morning, and while there are a couple of features and specifications that are interesting, for the most part, this camera is operationally pretty unremarkable. Some of the most interesting and eye-catching specs, on closer examination, are applicable only in very limited situations or in ery particular circumstances. And while the video capabilities seem very impressive, the camera uses only an SD and a Micro SD card, none of the more modern, more capable options.

I do own and use Nikon cameras. I would prefer that they focus on designing and making more useful mainstream cameras, or that they would focus this energy and money on supporting the millions of F mount cameras that are still in service and will remain so for many years. This is not a camera that I will buy.
Actually, it's only available in black, with vario... (show quote)


Retro is selling right now, so camera companies are just giving customers what they want, a bit of nostalgia, but with modern tech.

Cheers

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Sep 20, 2023 17:06:44   #
gwilliams6
 
OldCADuser wrote:
I just saw an advert for the new Nikon Zf series of full-frame mirrorless cameras and they're really pushing this 'retro-look'. I don't know, but first off, one of the reasons, at least this is how I see it, in going mirrorless was so that camera designers would no longer be locked into a configuration dictated by the optical path of a mirror and viewfinder.

And to make this 'retro-look' even more pronounced, it appears that they're moving more of the controls back to dedicated knobs on the top of the camera. All they're missing is a faux film-advance and hinge on the side of the body.

Now I'll be the first to acknowledge that the LCD screen-based menu systems on many digital cameras can be frustrating (after all, I own Sony cameras ;-) but things have gotten better and with the introduction of customizable buttons (my Sony a6500 has three), you can at least program the most common option settings that you need quick access to.

Anyway, what do others think of this effort...

Disclaimer: I've never owned a Nikon, film-based or otherwise, and have been mirrorless since 2013 when I bought a Sony NEX-3N. My current mainline camera is a Sony a6500, but I've still got an a6000 and a A65 DSLR, which are occasionally called into service.

To see what I mean about this Nikon 'retro-look', here's what the new Zf looks like. Note that it's also available in all-black so at least they're not going all the way back into camera history to get this new look:
I just saw an advert for the new Nikon Zf series o... (show quote)


You posted a shot of the Nikon Zfc, a different camera. The Zfc is a crop sensor camera that comes in both silver and black top. The Zf announced today is a fullframe camera in black top with different skin colors.

Cheers

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