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Sep 15, 2023 15:57:03   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DaveO wrote:
Hmmm, so you want to change the subject from the original direction. Gee, what a surprise!

You do realize that in a fraction of the time you've spent looking foolish that you could have easily found what economists say are the main contributing factors for determining gas pricing. You prefer to play little left/right games and have someone spoon feed you as you push your cute little agenda! You're too easy!

LOL, that's on you! Pursue your very own enlightenment. That way you can't whine about sources provided for you.
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Sep 15, 2023 15:59:14   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DaveO wrote:
Hmmm, so you want to change the subject from the original direction. Gee, what a surprise!

You do realize that in a fraction of the time you've spent looking foolish that you could have easily found what economists say are the main contributing factors for determining gas pricing. You prefer to play little left/right games and have someone spoon feed you as you push your cute little agenda! You're too easy!

LOL, that's on you! Pursue your very own enlightenment. That way you can't whine about sources provided for you.
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Don’t try to argue/debate anyone whose last resort is asking you prove a negative .
“””… why is Biden not part of the problem.”””

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Sep 15, 2023 16:21:19   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
btbg wrote:
I didn't think you could explain either the high price of gas or why you don't seem to think Biden has contributed.

As to the left right game go back and look at your posts since 2020. You will find that over and over again you are silent about the incompetence of Biden and rail against Trump. You will also see that you are constantly critical of those on the right but never those on the left yet you claim to be co servative. Just be honest est and maybe people will start to respect you.

As for looking foolish what exactly do you think is foolish? Prices started going up because of how the world treated covid and the lies that were told about it.

They continued going up because of a conflict that would not have started if Trump were in office and have been exasperated by the Biden administration's anti oil policies. So what exactly is foolish about that?
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You're boring me. The topic we're arguing is my response on this thread and nothing else. Your interpretation of my political preferences has nothing to do with anything. Are you really this dense? Are you just trolling for social interaction?

Pitiful that you insist on not informing yourself and instead you attack me. Why do you continue to prove my point? By the way, the so called respect of morons like you means nothing. Any who can't be bothered to verify factual information and instead continue with deflections, attacks and political innuendo is worthless.

You're out of gas, Ignorant One.

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Sep 15, 2023 16:22:48   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
Don’t try to argue/debate anyone whose last resort is asking you prove a negative .
“””… why is Biden not part of the problem.”””


LOL, he is just being his usual uninformed pile of bs and choking on his political inhibitions.

He sounds like Den-Den has been blowing in his ear!

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Sep 15, 2023 16:50:57   #
btbg
 
DaveO wrote:
You're boring me. The topic we're arguing is my response on this thread and nothing else. Your interpretation of my political preferences has nothing to do with anything. Are you really this dense? Are you just trolling for social interaction?

Pitiful that you insist on not informing yourself and instead you attack me. Why do you continue to prove my point? By the way, the so called respect of morons like you means nothing. Any who can't be bothered to verify factual information and instead continue with deflections, attacks and political innuendo is worthless.

You're out of gas, Ignorant One.
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I offered the chance for you to enlighten me. You chose not to. Triple g went to the trouble to try to.

If you look at his links the problem started with how the world handled covid which I already stated. Where he disagrees with me is that he believes that the global market forces coupled with the war in Ukraine have caused the problem rather than Biden. My contention is tje war in Ukraine would not have happened vut for the incompetence of Biden. And although 3g is correct that the oil leases that the Biden administration have either not put up for sale or have canceled would not be producing yet Biden has struck an anti oil response that is hurting development.

Example although canceling Keystome has done nothing to decrease current production or distribution it has sent a clear message to investors not to invest as government may cancel your project after you have already spent your money but before you can get a return on your investment
.

Truly bad policy.

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Sep 15, 2023 17:59:57   #
Tex-s
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Yeah, but that's not what I'm saying. His message is always optimistic. I wasn't talking about the results you dislike.


I have to be misreading your posts. You seem to be lauding optimistic messaging over positive results. Biden SAYS optimistic things about the economy and delivers dismal results. Trump has been pessimistic in he is messaging, but prior to Covid, delivered almost unilaterally positive results i the economy. Blacks, for example had the best statistics in employment, income, education and other economic markers since the state have been measured.

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Sep 15, 2023 19:49:43   #
Triple G
 
btbg wrote:
I offered the chance for you to enlighten me. You chose not to. Triple g went to the trouble to try to.

If you look at his links the problem started with how the world handled covid which I already stated. Where he disagrees with me is that he believes that the global market forces coupled with the war in Ukraine have caused the problem rather than Biden. My contention is tje war in Ukraine would not have happened vut for the incompetence of Biden. And although 3g is correct that the oil leases that the Biden administration have either not put up for sale or have canceled would not be producing yet Biden has struck an anti oil response that is hurting development.

Example although canceling Keystome has done nothing to decrease current production or distribution it has sent a clear message to investors not to invest as government may cancel your project after you have already spent your money but before you can get a return on your investment
.

Truly bad policy.
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Those aren't represented as my opinions. but experts' opinions. It's not as much cause and effect as you state. Record production absolutely shuts down your assertion.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/sep/12/us-pace-record-oil-production-despite-bidens-green/

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Sep 15, 2023 20:17:23   #
btbg
 
Triple G wrote:
Those aren't represented as my opinions. but experts' opinions. It's not as much cause and effect as you state. Record production absolutely shuts down your assertion.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/sep/12/us-pace-record-oil-production-despite-bidens-green/


Notice the headline says despite. We would have more production without the Biden administration and their incompetence.

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Sep 15, 2023 20:27:11   #
Triple G
 
btbg wrote:
Notice the headline says despite. We would have more production without the Biden administration and their incompetence.


You are operating on conjecture, emotion and political bias; not facts and accumulated reports by oil companies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/06/17/how-has-the-oil-industry-fared-under-president-biden/?sh=44b02e603890

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/business/oil-production-biden-trump

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Sep 15, 2023 20:49:12   #
btbg
 
Triple G wrote:


Not really. Who was more friendly to big oil, Biden or Trump. No question ot was Trump.

Which president did Putin attack someone under and which did he not. Putin has started wars when Obama and Biden have been president but not when Trump was. None of that is conjecture.

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Sep 15, 2023 23:10:31   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Yeah, but that's not what I'm saying. His message is always optimistic. I wasn't talking about the results you dislike.


Yeah, but remember Biden is the consummate liar, he drove the economy over a cliff and now he lies to tell you how great he is doing, seems to me Art that you would have figured this out by now.

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Sep 15, 2023 23:56:13   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yeah, but remember Biden is the consummate liar, he drove the economy over a cliff and now he lies to tell you how great he is doing, seems to me Art that you would have figured this out by now.


You assume I haven't.
You must understand that I am only referring to the style of delivery which is different between the two of them (Biden, Trump). One appeals to the hopeful optimist, the other to those that believe they are victims of a failed society.

One could argue fact differences and how they came to choose one Party over the other, but a LONG time ago, a professor pointed out that most people vote the same way their parents do.

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Sep 16, 2023 07:55:08   #
Triple G
 
btbg wrote:
Not really. Who was more friendly to big oil, Biden or Trump. No question ot was Trump.

Which president did Putin attack someone under and which did he not. Putin has started wars when Obama and Biden have been president but not when Trump was. None of that is conjecture.


Why should a president be friendly to big oil, big pharma, big auto mfg, etc.? Are you sure you are not a communist? You've run out of cogent arguments against Biden policies so now you begin spouting knee jerk political talking points.

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Sep 16, 2023 08:26:54   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
Not really. Who was more friendly to big oil, Biden or Trump. No question ot was Trump.

Which president did Putin attack someone under and which did he not. Putin has started wars when Obama and Biden have been president but not when Trump was. None of that is conjecture.



Boy o . Something to proud of “ friendly to big oil”” !!!!

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Sep 16, 2023 08:27:34   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
btbg wrote:
I offered the chance for you to enlighten me. You chose not to. Triple g went to the trouble to try to.

If you look at his links the problem started with how the world handled covid which I already stated. Where he disagrees with me is that he believes that the global market forces coupled with the war in Ukraine have caused the problem rather than Biden. My contention is tje war in Ukraine would not have happened vut for the incompetence of Biden. And although 3g is correct that the oil leases that the Biden administration have either not put up for sale or have canceled would not be producing yet Biden has struck an anti oil response that is hurting development.

Example although canceling Keystome has done nothing to decrease current production or distribution it has sent a clear message to investors not to invest as government may cancel your project after you have already spent your money but before you can get a return on your investment
.

Truly bad policy.
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I offered you a chance to broaden your knowledge by using your computer and you opt to remain wrapped up with your politically motivated misconceptions.

Best wishes...

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