Watermarking (Page 4): You know, I used to do that for my copyright symbol, and it always worked. However, now for some reason, that no longer works on my computer. I will try and...

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Thomas902 wrote:

The keyboard code to invoke this is to hold down Alt then on your Num Pad key in (0; 1; 6; 9) which yields ©
You might want to appear to be savvy enough to add the Year after the symbol © 2023

You know, I used to do that for my copyright symbol, and it always worked. However, now for some reason, that no longer works on my computer. I will try and enter it here, I am about to do what you said to do ( ) and as you can see, nothing came out of that procedure. Is there anything you can suggest that would allow this to happen again? I have no clue why this no longer works on my laptop. I am using the numbers at the top of my keyboard and not using a Num Pad which some keyboards would have off to the right, in case that makes a difference. All suggestions appreciated.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Lucian wrote:

No... a signature is never a watermark, otherwise ... (show quote)

So people don't watermark with a signature?

If you REALLY want to get technical, a "watermark" is a distinguishing mark impressed on paper during manufacture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermark. Part of the paper itself.
However it is also been accepted as an overprint on an image. Nothing says the overprint cannot be a signature.

Perception....
(or hair splitting)

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

We were taught never to sign a photograph, but to dry-mount it to mat board and sign the mat, using a pencil. Markings made with graphite pencil are much more archival than markings made with ink. This has apparently been demonstrated multiple times when time capsules have been opened...writings in ink have been badly faded while markings in pencil are close to pristine.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

larryepage wrote:

We were taught never to sign a photograph, but to dry-mount it to mat board and sign the mat, using a pencil. Markings made with graphite pencil are much more archival than markings made with ink. This has apparently been demonstrated multiple times when time capsules have been opened...writings in ink have been badly faded while markings in pencil are close to pristine.

Horseart Loc: Alabama

Wallen wrote:

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Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Longshadow wrote:

So people don't watermark with a signature?

If you REALLY want to get technical, a "watermark" is a distinguishing mark impressed on paper during manufacture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermark. Part of the paper itself.
However it is also been accepted as an overprint on an image. Nothing says the overprint cannot be a signature.

Perception....
(or hair splitting)

Now you are trying to bring in something completely different which has nothing to do with what is being discussed here. We are talking about digital watermarking and the watermarking done in paper making has absolutely nothing to do with what the OP is asking here.

I'd suggest it would be best for you to stay on topic and not try to cloud the issue here with irrelevant info pertaining to making paper. I've bought beautiful handmade watermarked paper many years ago when I was in Florence, Italy of course. Worlds apart from digital watermarking a digital photo. I'm surprised you don't realize that.

And no, you either sign a photo as an artist would sign a painting or you watermark a digital photo. Those are two very different things. You would never find anyone calling an artist's signature on a painting, his watermark. With that said, the purpose of watermarking is to make it harder for people to copy the image.

You can use whatever you wish as a water mark, including a signature, but it would look like a water mark, which is generally put larger and across an image, often reduced in opacity and in multiple locations, which is different from a signature at the bottom right or left on a photo, or painting.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Lucian wrote:

Now you are trying to bring in something completel... (show quote)

Perception.....

Horseart Loc: Alabama

Elmo55 wrote:

I did a search, and didn't find a definitive answer to my question. So here goes, when you watermark your photos, where do you place the watermark? Top, bottom, center, corner, or where it's out of the main subject of the photo?

OK, In case I came across wrong, (as I sometimes do) with MY explanation of what I have always been told by every pro photographer I have ever known. (These are photographers who make their sole living this way.) My Equine photographer friend has made herself wealthy shooting horses all over the country and she does it this way, so I don't argue with it.
This is a picture I painted several years ago. Agree or disagree as you please, but it's how they always do it. The picture clearly show their explanation.

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joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

Horseart wrote:

OK, In case I came across wrong, (as I sometimes d... (show quote)

People can't just let others be, can they

gwilliams6

larryepage wrote:

Before watermarking, you might carefully consider your intent. Watermarks are quick and easy to remove with today's software. Or they can just be cropped away. If the intent is to prevent or discourage theft, watermarks mostly just serve as a distraction to the image nowadays.

Of course you can crop out or remove anything from any copied and stolen image, including watermarks. But watermarks serve a vital legal function. By watermarking all my shared and published images with a copyright and my name, I have been able to show in court that I did copyright my images before they were stolen, and that helped me win a few cases of unauthorized use for profit.

So I will continue to do it, thank you.

Cheers and best to you.

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awesome14 Loc: UK

dwermske wrote:

What is it you are trying to accomplish? A simple ... (show quote)

Invisible watermarks are not in the pixels. They are in a different part of the file called 'EXIF'.

joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

Wallen wrote:

img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)

Excellent ⭐⭐💯⭐⭐

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

awesome14 wrote:

Invisible watermarks are not in the pixels. They are in a different part of the file called 'EXIF'.

But just try to find the EXIF data in the print.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Wallen wrote:

...
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These are signature-watermarks:

Yup, still a watermark.
Types:
• unobtrusive
• obtrusive
• signature
• logo
• small
• LARGE

Horseart Loc: Alabama

joecichjr wrote:

People can't just let others be, can they

No, but I think everything that can be said about this subject had been said...and some of it was even polite.