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Sep 14, 2023 11:20:39   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Both larryepage and Architect1776 are in harmony with industry standards...
If you are paranoid then resister your images with the US Copyright Office.
https://www.copyright.gov/engage/photographers/

Note: If you are photographing models (for any reason) please do not watermark the image.
This makes it virtually useless for the model since they can't use it in a submission to a Model Agency.

Beside if you watermark images those who actually work in the industry will immediately dismiss you as a naive amateur... Yes lots of clueless Newbies watermark the work (makes them feel empowered).

Please grow up... and let your visual statement speak for who you are...
Sorry but this has come up for the past several decades and still seems to be a topic of interest.

Best Advice to wean yourself off the habit?
Please... Use the copyright symbol in your image description © (makes you look a little less like a newbie)
The keyboard code to invoke this is to hold down Alt then on your Num Pad key in (0; 1; 6; 9) which yields ©
You might want to appear to be savvy enough to add the Year after the symbol © 2023

Does this protect your images? No, only an licensed attorney can possibly help you here...
Provided you registered your images with the US US Copyright Office
But in the end you'll lose... Since the legal fees far exceed any recompense you may receive...
And don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger...

btw thanks Larry and Architect

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Sep 14, 2023 11:29:56   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Architect1776 wrote:
So absolutely true.
Total distractions that destroy the asthetics of the photo.


Agree COMPLETELY!!

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Sep 14, 2023 11:32:12   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Thomas902 wrote:
Both larryepage and Architect1776 are in harmony with industry standards...
If you are paranoid then resister your images with the US Copyright Office.
https://www.copyright.gov/engage/photographers/

Note: If you are photographing models (for any reason) please do not watermark the image.
This makes it virtually useless for the model since they can't use it in a submission to a Model Agency.

Beside if you watermark images those who actually work in the industry will immediately dismiss you as a naive amateur... Yes lots of clueless Newbies watermark the work (makes them feel empowered).

Please grow up... and let your visual statement speak for who you are...
Sorry but this has come up for the past several decades and still seems to be a topic of interest.

Best Advice to wean yourself off the habit?
Please... Use the copyright symbol in your image description © (makes you look a little less like a newbie)
The keyboard code to invoke this is to hold down Alt then on your Num Pad key in (0; 1; 6; 9) which yields ©
You might want to appear to be savvy enough to add the Year after the symbol © 2023

Does this protect your images? No, only an licensed attorney can possibly help you here...
Provided you registered your images with the US US Copyright Office
But in the end you'll lose... Since the legal fees far exceed any recompense you may receive...
And don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger...

btw thanks Larry and Architect
Both larryepage and Architect1776 are in harmony w... (show quote)


Right ON! As a former Pro shooter, this is awesome advice!!

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Sep 14, 2023 12:36:06   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Elmo55 wrote:
I did a search, and didn't find a definitive answer to my question. So here goes, when you watermark your photos, where do you place the watermark? Top, bottom, center, corner, or where it's out of the main subject of the photo?


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I don't watermark my photographs but most watermarks that I see are at the bottom and either to the right or to the left edge. There is no standard way or place to place a watermark so you just put it where ever you you prefer.

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Sep 14, 2023 13:10:28   #
Elmo55 Loc: Illinois
 
Thanks to all the replied, and after careful consideration, I am inclined to go with Thomas902's advice, less intrusive and distracting.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:08:18   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
Elmo55 wrote:
I did a search, and didn't find a definitive answer to my question. So here goes, when you watermark your photos, where do you place the watermark? Top, bottom, center, corner, or where it's out of the main subject of the photo?


A better question is "why watermark"? It doesn't accomplish anything except to degrade the image you are presenting. Any 10 year old and many adults can remove watermarks with ridiculous ease.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:19:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cahale wrote:
A better question is "why watermark"? It doesn't accomplish anything except to degrade the image you are presenting. Any 10 year old and many adults can remove watermarks with ridiculous ease.

They should remove all the signatures on the paintings in museums.
It degrades the image presented........

Perception?

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Sep 14, 2023 14:19:44   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
cahale wrote:
A better question is "why watermark"? It doesn't accomplish anything except to degrade the image you are presenting. Any 10 year old and many adults can remove watermarks with ridiculous ease.



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Sep 14, 2023 14:26:07   #
srg
 
Elmo55 wrote:
I did a search, and didn't find a definitive answer to my question. So here goes, when you watermark your photos, where do you place the watermark? Top, bottom, center, corner, or where it's out of the main subject of the photo?


I think its an outrage that people have been getting rich by selling your photos.
Watermark should by your name written in huge block letters in contrasting color somewhere near the center.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:30:07   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Longshadow wrote:
They should remove all the signatures on the paintings in museums.
It degrades the image presented........

Perception?


Most all I have seen it is discrete or not there at all.
That is why there are many masters paintings are difficult to identify.
The ones here on UHH look like flashing neon lights distracting completely from the image.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:39:01   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Most all I have seen it is discrete or not there at all.
That is why there are many masters paintings are difficult to identify.
The ones here on UHH look like flashing neon lights distracting completely from the image.

THAT, is bad.
Mine are usually light gray or a color that I try to make subtle for where it is placed.
And they are only on media postings (NEVER on prints). Unless I make the media image size just large enough to be displayed, not pixel peeped, then there is no watermark. (Or if I simply don't care to do it for some images.)
Only intended to discourage the honest person from copying.
I also don think there is a huge market for my images,
after all, I took them for me.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:49:35   #
dwermske
 
What is it you are trying to accomplish? A simple copyright/watermark can be placed anywhere on the picture but it can also easily be removed. If you are trying to keep your images from being used with your permission then there is a process called "Digital Watermarking" that can't be seen or removed. Special software is used to embedded your copyright/watermark within the pixels of the picture and can't be seen without using special software and a key-code. Then a simple copyright/watermark can be placed anywhere. If it is removed you can then use the "Digital Watermark" as proof of ownership and file for copyright infringement.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:53:21   #
AzYooper Loc: Sun Lakes AZ (Almost Phoenix)
 
Watermark is one thing. An artist signature or logo is another. Two different purposes. I add my logo to lower left or right corner, depending on which has less meaningful content. IF you use a vignette, one corner is usually darker than the other and will display a white logo nicely.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:57:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
AzYooper wrote:
Watermark is one thing. An artist signature or logo is another. Two different purposes. I add my logo to lower left or right corner, depending on which has less meaningful content. IF you use a vignette, one corner is usually darker than the other and will display a white logo nicely.

Then I suppose I use a "signature" then....
which I also doubles as a watermark.

Maybe it depends on what the "marking" looks like as to what one wants to call it.

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Sep 14, 2023 14:57:51   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
Longshadow wrote:
They should remove all the signatures on the paintings in museums.
It degrades the image presented........

Perception?


Do you really consider a digital file and a piece of paper/canvas hanging on a wall the same thing. And yes, the ego tag is distracting.

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