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Sep 1, 2023 07:25:51   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Klickitatdave wrote:
I just learned that the effects of Restarting vs. Shutting Down are counterintuitive. When you shut down, Windows actually saves the current state of the system so that when you do power back up you are back to the way things were at the time that you shut down. This allows the system to boot faster and allows you to rapidly get back to what you were doing before the shutdown. If the goal is to clear the system's memory or stop unneeded or problematic processes then Restart is the option to choose.
I just learned that the effects of Restarting vs. ... (show quote)


This is my understanding as well, through reading and YouTube vids. Also, it works for me.
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Edit: Restart is Especially Effective after a long period of Post Processing if you notice your computer slowing down

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Sep 1, 2023 07:34:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
TonyP wrote:
No, you are right Jerry


Now that's what I like to hear!

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Sep 1, 2023 08:56:09   #
Canisdirus
 
My solution is comprehensive...

Computer shuts down...power plug is removed...Net cable...physically unplugged.

I also corrupted by boot manager on purpose...takes a special combo in a timed manner to get in.
Any mistake takes you to a locked screen.

Nailed my nephew with that one...

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Sep 1, 2023 15:06:45   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
TonyP wrote:
No, you are right Jerry


No, you have it backward. Restart attempts to restart any applications that were open at the time of the command. Shutdown closes all open applications before shutting down the O/S' and turning the PC off. When you turn the machine back on, only those apps that are in the Startup list will be automatically started.

It may be that some of the apps that were open at the time of shutdown will try to restore the prior session. For example, Firefox will ask if it should attempt to restore the windows or start a new session. It will only ask that question if it was running and was forcefully ended by some command. Some of the ways to end Firefox and have it ask about restoring the former windows are ALT/F4, Shutdown, End Task from Task Manager, or Restart. It will also ask when started after there is a program error. There may be other apps that will try to restore a former session under the same conditions.

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Sep 1, 2023 16:41:20   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
TheShoe wrote:
No, you have it backward. Restart attempts to restart any applications that were open at the time of the command. Shutdown closes all open applications before shutting down the O/S' and turning the PC off. When you turn the machine back on, only those apps that are in the Startup list will be automatically started.

It may be that some of the apps that were open at the time of shutdown will try to restore the prior session. For example, Firefox will ask if it should attempt to restore the windows or start a new session. It will only ask that question if it was running and was forcefully ended by some command. Some of the ways to end Firefox and have it ask about restoring the former windows are ALT/F4, Shutdown, End Task from Task Manager, or Restart. It will also ask when started after there is a program error. There may be other apps that will try to restore a former session under the same conditions.
No, you have it backward. Restart attempts to rest... (show quote)


This doesn't jive with my experience. I just did a restart on my win-10 pc. When I did it Chrome, my code editor and my web stack were running. I had to restart all of them. In my experience, only hibernate and wake up result in running programs still running.

Ed

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Sep 1, 2023 17:39:05   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
TheShoe wrote:
No, you have it backward. Restart attempts to restart any applications that were open at the time of the command. Shutdown closes all open applications before shutting down the O/S' and turning the PC off. When you turn the machine back on, only those apps that are in the Startup list will be automatically started.

It may be that some of the apps that were open at the time of shutdown will try to restore the prior session. For example, Firefox will ask if it should attempt to restore the windows or start a new session. It will only ask that question if it was running and was forcefully ended by some command. Some of the ways to end Firefox and have it ask about restoring the former windows are ALT/F4, Shutdown, End Task from Task Manager, or Restart. It will also ask when started after there is a program error. There may be other apps that will try to restore a former session under the same conditions.
No, you have it backward. Restart attempts to rest... (show quote)


This is backwards. It's counter to plain thinking, but restart purges everything, and shutting down saves many settings to allow a faster boot. With modern computers (with an SSD for the OS) this is moot anyway, as there's no real difference in boot time anymore whether some settings are saved or not (boot time is mostly BIOS).

My main PC is on almost always. It shuts off the displays after 10 minutes of inactivity and sleeps after 20, unless I sleep it first. I'll close all my apps and restart every once in a while, probably 3-5 days on average, but otherwise I sometimes close and reopen my browser windows (or other apps) to free up resources without rebooting.

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Sep 1, 2023 17:44:51   #
BebuLamar
 
One of my computer doesn't restart. I can shut it down and start it up but if I do a restart it would hang and then I ended up having to do a forced shut down.

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Sep 1, 2023 17:56:08   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
One of my computer doesn't restart. I can shut it down and start it up but if I do a restart it would hang and then I ended up having to do a forced shut down.


I had that happen with me on a Windows 7 machine with an AMD processor. I mention the CPU because, although I don't remember what caused the issue, I want to say it was CPU-related.

As I said, I don't remember the cause, but I do remember I figured it out and fixed it. (Well, Google figured it out for me probably.)

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Sep 2, 2023 02:30:08   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
This is backwards. It's counter to plain thinking, but restart purges everything, and shutting down saves many settings to allow a faster boot. With modern computers (with an SSD for the OS) this is moot anyway, as there's no real difference in boot time anymore whether some settings are saved or not (boot time is mostly BIOS).

My main PC is on almost always. It shuts off the displays after 10 minutes of inactivity and sleeps after 20, unless I sleep it first. I'll close all my apps and restart every once in a while, probably 3-5 days on average, but otherwise I sometimes close and reopen my browser windows (or other apps) to free up resources without rebooting.
This is backwards. It's counter to plain thinking,... (show quote)


Actually, neither of is correct. MS changed the way it works with an update. I am on W10, so if you are on W11, it may be different. An update changed the default for Restart to not doing a restart of applications. When problems were reported, they provided instructions for changing the action; however, I just tried to follow their instructions, and the key option for the procedure does not exist where the instructions indicate it should be. I am now hunting for the option.

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