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Aug 13, 2023 11:41:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JimH123 wrote:
Many good choices in your 2 links. Older cameras are fine for IR imaging. Latest, greatest cameras with all the bells and whistles are just not needed or even important for IR imaging.


With my D70 conversion, I have to set the withe balance using green grass.

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Aug 13, 2023 12:12:30   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
With my D70 conversion, I have to set the withe balance using green grass.


Here is a hint. If you shoot JPEG, then yes you need to set the white balance with green grass.

If you shoot RAW, then it makes no difference if you set a white balance since you can always set the WB on the image in post processing. Usually this involves doing a temperature offset before the WB, and then comes the Red-Blue channel swapping.

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Aug 13, 2023 13:19:44   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
I had Lifepixel convert a Sigma SD10 DSLR and an Olympus 4/3 E-PL1 LiveView several years ago and am very satisfied with the results. I purchased 2 sets of IR/UV combination filters (52mm and 82mm). My lens choices were El Nikkor enlarging lenses, which are excellent lenses for IR/UV. Lenses need adapters to fit Sigma SA and OM 4/3 bodies. All in all a very complete and useful multi-spectral system, UV/Vis/IR.

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Aug 13, 2023 16:02:46   #
eagle80 Loc: Kutztown, PA
 
I had one done at Lifepixel. Very happy with it.

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Aug 13, 2023 16:06:37   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Lifepixel did my conversion. All the companies you mention have good reputations and sometimes offer deals. One thing I found valuable from Lifepixel was it included a half hour zoom session on processing. I went full spectrum and just bought the largest filters I needed and use step up rings. If you expect to do any real UV photography you will probably need specialty lenses since regular lenses block most UV light.
Mirrorless is definitely the way to go and has been stated previously there is no need for all the bells and whistles of modern mirrorless buying a used Lumix GH1 was a no brainer for me since I was already well invested in M4/3 lenses. Since you already have a D500 I’d think a Z50 would be good if you have DX lenses.

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Aug 13, 2023 16:26:14   #
Tote1940 Loc: Dallas
 
Had Fuji Finepix S3 converted by Kolari, does have a live view feature, placed filter on mirror. Basically D40 but it would have been smarter to use Z50

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Aug 14, 2023 07:22:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
There are hours of IR processing instruction available on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ir+processing

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Aug 15, 2023 09:00:32   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
baer wrote:
My only digital camera is a D500 and I want to keep that as is. I want to get a Nikon digital (not a pocket camera) with somewhere between 20 to 24 MP) to convert to take IR and/or UV pictures.

Questions: (1) Which DX digital body would you recommend and (2) would you get one that's already converted by the conversion service or a separate body, (3) which service would you recommend (I only know of Lifepixel, Kolari and Spencer camera), and (4) would I need filters for each separate lens if I go for full spectrum conversion?

Thank you very much in advance for any advice,
Sincerely,
Baer
My only digital camera is a D500 and I want to kee... (show quote)


It's all your choice of course, but I chose to convert a Nikon Df for several reasons. First was that it uses ALL of Nikons F mount lenses, including the old pre-ai lenses. Second was it is one of the best low light cameras I have ever used. Third is that it LOOKS like an old film body when people see you using it. Fourth, it has no pop-up flash nor video, which are both pretty worthless for IR. My only complaint is that it is the only full frame Nikon to use the EN-EL 14 batteries from DX bodies, but since I also have another Df I do have batteries for both.

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Aug 15, 2023 09:28:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MT Shooter wrote:
It's all your choice of course, but I chose to convert a Nikon Df for several reasons. First was that it uses ALL of Nikons F mount lenses, including the old pre-ai lenses. Second was it is one of the best low light cameras I have ever used. Third is that it LOOKS like an old film body when people see you using it. Fourth, it has no pop-up flash nor video, which are both pretty worthless for IR. My only complaint is that it is the only full frame Nikon to use the EN-EL 14 batteries from DX bodies, but since I also have another Df I do have batteries for both.
It's all your choice of course, but I chose to con... (show quote)


I've always liked having the pop-up flash, just in case. I'm sorry that the Z cameras don't have them.

Having to stock different kinds of batteries is definitely annoying - and expensive.

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Aug 15, 2023 10:21:58   #
Canisdirus
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've always liked having the pop-up flash, just in case. I'm sorry that the Z cameras don't have them.

Having to stock different kinds of batteries is definitely annoying - and expensive.


Most of the newer flashes have rechargeable batteries built into them.

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Aug 15, 2023 10:33:14   #
Tote1940 Loc: Dallas
 
My Z50 does, great fill in but does not work with silent shutter
My ZFc does not, it is prettier and easier to use but no flash and only one user customizable button

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Aug 15, 2023 11:35:03   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
MT Shooter wrote:
It's all your choice of course, but I chose to convert a Nikon Df for several reasons. First was that it uses ALL of Nikons F mount lenses, including the old pre-ai lenses. Second was it is one of the best low light cameras I have ever used. Third is that it LOOKS like an old film body when people see you using it. Fourth, it has no pop-up flash nor video, which are both pretty worthless for IR. My only complaint is that it is the only full frame Nikon to use the EN-EL 14 batteries from DX bodies, but since I also have another Df I do have batteries for both.
It's all your choice of course, but I chose to con... (show quote)


But what’s the use of having all those lenses available if they can only adjust the focus for one lens. Converting a mirrorless is the way to go. No focus’s adjustment needed.

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Aug 15, 2023 19:22:34   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
But what’s the use of having all those lenses available if they can only adjust the focus for one lens. Converting a mirrorless is the way to go. No focus’s adjustment needed.


That issue applies to zoom lenses. All manual focus primes work just perfectly.

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Aug 15, 2023 19:54:07   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
MT Shooter wrote:
That issue applies to zoom lenses. All manual focus primes work just perfectly.


Read this from Lifepixel.com
https://www.lifepixel.com/infrared-photography-primer/ch4-lenses-slr-lenses-custom-calibration-for-ir-converted-cameras

When they do a calibration, it is only for that lens. Another lens may focus IR differently. And this is with Primes.

And if they focus with a zoom lens, they pick the widest angle. At other focal lengths, it is likely not in perfect focus.

The answer is that the best choice is mirrorless. Every lens you have retains perfect focus. Zooms have perfect focus at all focal lengths.

Personally, I have one of each, and I can tell you which camera gets used and which one gets left behind. It's the mirrorless that gets used. Every time. And all the lenses I have for that camera, both prime and zoom, all continue to focus perfectly. And at all focal lengths.

With my non-mirrorless camera, autofocus thinks it is getting it right. But it is very noticeably out of focus. And many AF lenses seem to have manual focus as an afterthought, and don't provide long rotational movement and are actually tricky to manually focus.

This page from LifePixel on camera selection is worth reading too: (Somewhat dated and not updated recently)
https://www.lifepixel.com/camera-considerations

Regarding doing a custom White Balance. Necessary if you shoot JPEGs. For RAW, it doesn't matter, even a tiny amount. I set the camera to "Sunny" and don't change it. I have experimented where I tried all the WB settings the camera had, and with RAW images, it made ZERO difference. In all cases, I ended up with the same result.

I use Rob Shea's Infrared Profile Pack. Can be used with Lightroom or Photoshop, and other editors too.
https://blog.robsheaphotography.com/downloads/

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Aug 17, 2023 13:55:29   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
BassmanBruce wrote:
1. I would choose a mirrorless camera if affordabl. Any lens should af that way.
2. I bought a sony a-65 on ebay so no comment here.
3. I had Isaac Szabo do the coversion, prompt, good job, quite a bit cheaper than the others.
4. No, just buy filters at least as big as your largest diameter lens and use step down rings.

Hope that helps.


Isaac is great for IR conversions.

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