kerry12 Loc: Harrisburg, Pa.

Infinity also very good. I have the Polk Audio Lsi series and love them. Have had them for about 15 years or more.

Canisdirus

I have never purchased B stock before but have seen examples for sale.

Audio wise...they will be exactly the same...the 'B' is almost always referring to...appearance.

There may be a blemish...or a nick...anything more gets pulled.

Center channel...I would fall on the...'who cares'...and go for it.

If it was a pair of main speakers you want to show off (some folks go for that line of thinking)...then no.

mindzye Loc: WV

I am not a fan of Klipsch speakers. Have a couple of floor surround sound speakers with muted mids and highs - trebles are not clear.
Though they were in a past purchase, I traded them out for a generic cheaper, shorter Panasonic speaker set. Actually a much cleaner precise sound.

So being disappointed with said speakers, I had a brainstorm of trying one of their new, on sale center channels.
Now I have to constantly try different mode of speed/ hearing on the tv, different settings on a new Onkyo tuner/ receiver drive you nuts with hidden sound adjustments amp, tuner/ unit selector device.

Still not clear sound out of the Klipsch. Mids and highs are sloppy, muted and not crisp.....at all. Lousy speaker design in my experienced opinion.
Help section at Klipsch mothership says, 'sorry, we're disappointed you're not happy. Anything else we can do for you'?

I saw a sign in a local auto repair shop, comically done with the 3 Stooges, overalls and tools in hand, stating
"We're not happy until You're not happy" ..........

planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs

It's probably going to be shipped tomorrow...or I could make a 5-hour round trip and pick it up. I've wanted to get the 504s at first, but they literally wouldn't fit under my TV and I never thought of putting a center channel other than right below it...now I have my r34c (4x3 1/2" drivers) on the bottom shelf propped up with a VHS tape to angle the sound up. As it is I'll still have to put the new speaker below the top or else put my turntable on top of the speaker. The RP504Ciis have the same size drivers as my RP600Miis (4x5 1/4" drivers) so they will be timbre-matched. I'm sure it will sound drastically different...and better. Plus both being 2nd gen is probably better anyways. My heights, surrounds and subs are older gen.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I've bought all kinds of "seconds" with no problems. The "problem" is often something insignificant that doesn't affect performance.

Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.

Still not clear sound out of the Klipsch. Mids and highs are sloppy, muted and not crisp.....at all. Lousy speaker design in my experienced opinion.

I find this statement quite interesting because this would be the first time in (roughly) 45 years that I have ever heard such a thing, but you can't help what you hear...

Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA

No moving parts? Think about how a speaker works, by constantly "pushing" sound waves. The cone is constantly moving back and forth.

Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.

planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs

Never thought about that, but you're right. I was mostly thinking rotors and levers...that sort of thing. Since the cone moves via magnetic oscillation within a soft baffle, I didn't consider it congruent with my brain train at the time. Having turned 60 a couple months ago I think I can be forgiven for occasionally having "senior moments."

Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.

We're laughing with you Gary, not at you.

Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA

I too turned 60 a couple of months ago. Could we be twins?

I gotta admit, you had me believing you (for a minute) that speakers have no moving parts. Then I remembered an iconic scene from an old '80s film.

planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs

Marty shouldn't have turned up the amp before plucking. It was his fault! I think the original is by far the best of them...same with a lot of movies (with many exceptions).

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

I am the original owner of a pair of KEF 104.2 speakers (bought in 1971).
I replaced the tweeters when the ferrofluid in the originals dried out.
I re-capped them (?2010) when a replacement set of matched bipolar electrolytics came available from England
And - I replaced the woofer cones when they crapped out.
Unfortunately, due to Jet Noise, I can't hear above 2kHz - so my daughter now has these speakers.
But when I COULD hear - these speakers were incomparable.
https://www.hifi-classic.net/review/kef-model-104-2-477.html

lbrande

I spent years finding what I thought were the best speakers. For my HT setup I use Legacy Audio.
Whispers L and R, Marquis for the center. Rears are Mysts.
You really should listen to what they sound like before purchasing. It is a personal choice, and the Klipsch may not be to your liking.

BBurns Loc: South Bay, California

Merlin, you have possibly dated both of us. KEF's have a long history.
lbrande, you are absolutely correct.

I have been around high end audio since before 'Stereo' was introduced.
Back when it was referred to as 'HiFi'.

I worked on wire recorders before tape came of age.
Half Track Mono, 2, 4, 8 & 16 track stereo.
Car audio, yes, there were record players in cars before 4 & 8 track players arrived.
The coming & going of the cassette.

I always told prospective clients to shop very carefully. Put their money in their speakers first.
Each person hears differently and rarely do 2 people hear alike.
This makes your speaker choice very personal.
If the $200/pr don't sound any better than the $2000/pr, then do not waste your money.
More times than I can remember, a customer would buy high end gear.
With little left in their budget, they would throw in a pair of, mediocre at best, speakers.
Only to be sorely disappointed with the results.
A transistor radio sounds good when a decent speaker is connected to it.

Remember, speakers of yesteryear were designed for tube amps and that smooth analog waveform.
They will not sound the same with the sharp rise-time waveforms that digital presents to them.

Those out there who have not been around long enough to remember the CD, will not understand this.

My ears are now almost 79 years old and I can't hear 10K in either ear any more.
Maybe that's why my Infinities sound so good. But I can still make the earth move with them.