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Aug 8, 2023 17:43:34   #
gwilliams6
 
CJW wrote:
I have seen some people complain about the A1 overheating. Is this a known issue? Is it production wide or do I need to have mine tended to?

I was shooting a revolutionary reenactment over the weekend and I could feel the camera getting hotter and hotter. And then the dreaded message camera has overheated. Allow internal camera to cool. Missed the great ending as I was waiting for it to cool.

It doesn't matter the battery - Sony or aftermarket. It doesn't matter if it is a hot day. I was shooting burst at the time but had not been very often. But in the half hour battle, yes I was shooting almost constantly.

I guess I need to know if this is just a quirk of this camera and is there a cure, other than carrying an ice pack :). Can it be corrected/repaired?
I have seen some people complain about the A1 over... (show quote)


1)First of all be sure to set the internal temp to high setting. The camera will go longer before overheating.

2) Also if you pull out the LCD just a bit away from the camera that helps also to keep heat away from the internal circuits. BOTH of these techniques work for all Canon and Nikon mirrorless cameras also to help. They all overheat just as much if not more than Sony, just a fact.

3)No one had worse overheating issues than the now legendary overheating with Canon R mirrorless cameras.

4) If you aren't going to be shooting for awhile, turn off the camera, that also helps.

5) Also if you choose to use a battery grip, that also gets a lot of the heat out of the camera internals.

6) I have had a Sony A1 since they first came out in March 2021. I shoot all subjects around the world, and in all temps, and I live in hot Texas. I do not have an overheating problem with my A1. I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently shoot with Sony A7RIV, A1, A7SIII and I dont have overheating issues.

7) Sony and other makers have some camera models with internal fans for active cooling if you want to go that route.

Cheers and best to you.


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Aug 8, 2023 21:38:21   #
ReFlections Loc: From LA to AL
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
1)First of all be sure to set the internal temp to high setting. The camera will go longer before overheating.

2) Also if you pull out the LCD just a bit away from the camera that helps also to keep heat away from the internal circuits. BOTH of these techniques work for all Canon and Nikon mirrorless cameras also to help. They all overheat just as much if not more than Sony, just a fact.

3)No one had worse overheating issues than the now legendary overheating with Canon R mirrorless cameras.

4) If you aren't going to be shooting for awhile, turn off the camera, that also helps.

5) Also if you choose to use a battery grip, that also gets a lot of the heat out of the camera internals.

6) I have had a Sony A1 since they first came out in March 2021. I shoot all subjects around the world, and in all temps, and I live in hot Texas. I do not have an overheating problem with my A1. I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently shoot with Sony A7RIV, A1, A7SIII and I dont have overheating issues.

7) Sony and other makers have some camera models with internal fans for active cooling if you want to go that route.

Cheers and best to you.
1)First of all be sure to set the internal temp to... (show quote)


Thanks for the suggestions.

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Aug 9, 2023 08:39:33   #
Canisdirus
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
1)First of all be sure to set the internal temp to high setting. The camera will go longer before overheating.

2) Also if you pull out the LCD just a bit away from the camera that helps also to keep heat away from the internal circuits. BOTH of these techniques work for all Canon and Nikon mirrorless cameras also to help. They all overheat just as much if not more than Sony, just a fact.

3)No one had worse overheating issues than the now legendary overheating with Canon R mirrorless cameras.

4) If you aren't going to be shooting for awhile, turn off the camera, that also helps.

5) Also if you choose to use a battery grip, that also gets a lot of the heat out of the camera internals.

6) I have had a Sony A1 since they first came out in March 2021. I shoot all subjects around the world, and in all temps, and I live in hot Texas. I do not have an overheating problem with my A1. I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently shoot with Sony A7RIV, A1, A7SIII and I dont have overheating issues.

7) Sony and other makers have some camera models with internal fans for active cooling if you want to go that route.

Cheers and best to you.
1)First of all be sure to set the internal temp to... (show quote)


I would add just a few things...and this is for all cameras...in hot weather like we are all pretty much having right now.

Keep your gear covered with a light colored cloth when not using...don't let it sit in a black bag...unfortunately...most of our carry gear has dark colors.
Personally...while I don't have an A1...but when I am out shooting for a long time in the summer...I bring an umbrella.

Also...keep your battery door open. Batteries shed a ton of heat...and just opening the bottom...makes a difference to any body.

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Aug 9, 2023 11:54:20   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
I never would have thought about that last one. I called Chrysler Camera yesterday about my a99ii repair. About 2 weeks ago I thought they were only waiting on the mirror box...now I find they're waiting on the mother board! Maybe I couldn't hear with all the planes zooming overhead. Supposedly it will be there by Friday and they'll finally get to it. It's been gone early a month and can't wait to get it back.

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Aug 9, 2023 17:06:37   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
CJW wrote:
I have seen some people complain about the A1 overheating. Is this a known issue? Is it production wide or do I need to have mine tended to?

I was shooting a revolutionary reenactment over the weekend and I could feel the camera getting hotter and hotter. And then the dreaded message camera has overheated. Allow internal camera to cool. Missed the great ending as I was waiting for it to cool.

It doesn't matter the battery - Sony or aftermarket. It doesn't matter if it is a hot day. I was shooting burst at the time but had not been very often. But in the half hour battle, yes I was shooting almost constantly.

I guess I need to know if this is just a quirk of this camera and is there a cure, other than carrying an ice pack :). Can it be corrected/repaired?
I have seen some people complain about the A1 over... (show quote)


The A1 sensor just overheats if you record video long enough. It's an issue with the physical design of the camera. Sensors get hot! The higher the resolution of the sensor, the more heat it generates. The larger the surface area of the sensor, the more heat it generates. Cameras have to have really good thermal design to support serious hybrid (stills and video) photography.

If you want to make longer and better videos, look at the Panasonic Lumix S5 Mark II and IIX. They are TRUE hybrid cameras made for making great video and stills. They have many advanced features to make your life easier! These two cameras have features such as:

COOLING FANS in the viewfinder housings to cool their sensors.
Unlimited recording in most video modes (limited by media size and battery or power supply only)
Waveform monitors, vector scopes, histograms, and color bars
Four channel audio if you add the dual XLR input hot shoe adapter to the 3.5mm stereo mic jack
Switchable audio peak limiters
Adjustable audio level controls
Peak level audio meters
Shutter angle control (keeps the shutter speed at a constant fraction of the frame rate during video recording)
Many slow motion options (variable frame rate)
Downloadable LUTs for precise color matching with other cameras (or creative control)
True V-LOG video for wide dynamic range
Anamorphic modes
USB-C SSD recording option
USB-PD external power supply connectivity
Excellent build quality and ergonomics
Phase Detect Hybrid Autofocus (finally in a Panasonic camera!)
L-Mount lenses (SEVEN manufacturers are party to this licensable, open standard, including Leica, Panasonic, Sigma, and four others)
$2000 for the S5 Mark II or $2200 for the S5 Mark IIX body
The Mark IIX has some advanced video features not included in the Mark II.

I won't bore you with more... There are plenty of videos on YouTube that review and demonstrate these cameras.

These are on the Lumix S5 Mark IIX:

https://youtu.be/nHhCQm14VRc Gerald Undone

https://youtu.be/L833ZhUtiBw Tyler Stalman

https://youtu.be/tyLV5-zMXd4 Tony Northrup

THE HOAX (Short film) LUMIX S5IIX + ATLAS MERCURY ANAMORPHIC LENSES

https://youtu.be/jHaDXTNYQR8

“We are switching from Sony to Panasonic” https://youtu.be/ouVFlMx-83Q Larimore Studios

https://youtu.be/7XNIR62fYaI The Hybrid Shooter review

https://youtu.be/jfTHLX9Joig Josh Cameron rant (He has a ton of special videos on the S5 II and IIX cameras)

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Aug 9, 2023 17:10:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
CJW wrote:
Yikes. Fortunately this camera has one month left on warranty. I think I'm sending it in. They will either tell me something is wrong and hopefully fix it or send it back. My concern is what damage has happened to the other components.


Overheating shuts it down in the manner you described, precisely to avoid damage. Once it is cool, it is safe to continue recording.

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Aug 9, 2023 22:53:25   #
gwilliams6
 
ReFlections wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions.


You are welcome.

Cheers and best to you

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Aug 9, 2023 22:55:56   #
gwilliams6
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I would add just a few things...and this is for all cameras...in hot weather like we are all pretty much having right now.

Keep your gear covered with a light colored cloth when not using...don't let it sit in a black bag...unfortunately...most of our carry gear has dark colors.
Personally...while I don't have an A1...but when I am out shooting for a long time in the summer...I bring an umbrella.

Also...keep your battery door open. Batteries shed a ton of heat...and just opening the bottom...makes a difference to any body.
I would add just a few things...and this is for al... (show quote)


All good advice.

Thanks Canisdirus.

Cheers and best to you.

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Aug 10, 2023 06:47:43   #
M3Studios
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
1)First of all be sure to set the internal temp to high setting. The camera will go longer before overheating.

2) Also if you pull out the LCD just a bit away from the camera that helps also to keep heat away from the internal circuits. BOTH of these techniques work for all Canon and Nikon mirrorless cameras also to help. They all overheat just as much if not more than Sony, just a fact.

3)No one had worse overheating issues than the now legendary overheating with Canon R mirrorless cameras.

4) If you aren't going to be shooting for awhile, turn off the camera, that also helps.

5) Also if you choose to use a battery grip, that also gets a lot of the heat out of the camera internals.

6) I have had a Sony A1 since they first came out in March 2021. I shoot all subjects around the world, and in all temps, and I live in hot Texas. I do not have an overheating problem with my A1. I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently shoot with Sony A7RIV, A1, A7SIII and I dont have overheating issues.

7) Sony and other makers have some camera models with internal fans for active cooling if you want to go that route.

Cheers and best to you.
1)First of all be sure to set the internal temp to... (show quote)


I have a Sony A1, and recently had an overheating problem. I was inside, shooting a set of about 25 pictures with a flash. I put the camera back in its bag and drove 25 minutes to my house. By time I got home and opened a case, the camera was overheated and was on including the LCD. The batteries were unusually depleted which I took to be directly related to the overheating. I turned the camera off and recharged the batteries. I’ve not had any other problems with the camera after the incident. I am not certain I left the camera on when I put it in the bag. I don’t know why the camera didn’t turn itself off, even if I left it on. I took the entire episode to be pretty unusual, and I am reporting it to Sony just to protect my warranty rights if it happens again.

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Aug 10, 2023 09:07:46   #
Canisdirus
 
M3Studios wrote:
I have a Sony A1, and recently had an overheating problem. I was inside, shooting a set of about 25 pictures with a flash. I put the camera back in its bag and drove 25 minutes to my house. By time I got home and opened a case, the camera was overheated and was on including the LCD. The batteries were unusually depleted which I took to be directly related to the overheating. I turned the camera off and recharged the batteries. I’ve not had any other problems with the camera after the incident. I am not certain I left the camera on when I put it in the bag. I don’t know why the camera didn’t turn itself off, even if I left it on. I took the entire episode to be pretty unusual, and I am reporting it to Sony just to protect my warranty rights if it happens again.
I have a Sony A1, and recently had an overheating ... (show quote)


My camera never turns itself off completely...it goes into a sleep mode...but it's on alright...creating heat.

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Aug 10, 2023 09:08:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
M3Studios wrote:
I have a Sony A1, and recently had an overheating problem. I was inside, shooting a set of about 25 pictures with a flash. I put the camera back in its bag and drove 25 minutes to my house. By time I got home and opened a case, the camera was overheated and was on including the LCD. The batteries were unusually depleted which I took to be directly related to the overheating. I turned the camera off and recharged the batteries. I’ve not had any other problems with the camera after the incident. I am not certain I left the camera on when I put it in the bag. I don’t know why the camera didn’t turn itself off, even if I left it on. I took the entire episode to be pretty unusual, and I am reporting it to Sony just to protect my warranty rights if it happens again.
I have a Sony A1, and recently had an overheating ... (show quote)


Is your firmware up to date? There may be a glitch that got fixed in an update. (I'm guessing because it has happened with other brands. Firmware updates are issued to fix bugs, add features, and refine existing features and performance.)

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Aug 10, 2023 10:33:43   #
M3Studios
 
Good to know. Thanks. I’m gonna look at this.

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Aug 10, 2023 10:34:20   #
M3Studios
 
I think it’s up-to-date. But I will double check. That’s a great suggestion. Thanks.

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Aug 10, 2023 12:40:18   #
gwilliams6
 
Folks dont leave your modern cameras on and in a closed bag, that can build heat and hold heat.

The Top News services in the World have moved to exclusive use of Sony mirrorless for all their staff photographers and staff videographers, worldwide. That includes Associated Press, UK's top News Service, Canadian Press, and all Gannett media including USA Today. AFP (Agence France Presse) helped develop and test the Nikon Z9 , and they use Z9 for their staffers.

The News Services are using Sony A1 extensively as well as other Sony models, all around the world, in all climates and under the harshest and most strenuous conditions and they aren't being stymied with overheating. Sony A1 were used extensively at the Tokyo Olympics ,and it was the hottest Olympics ever recorded.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

In reality, you can overheat ANY brand's camera models without an internal cooling fan if you try hard enough. (LOL)

Keep your A1 camera updated and follow the tips suggested here and you will be fine.

Or you can go to the Sony, Canon or Panasonic models that have an internal fan for active cooling.

Cheers and best to you.

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Aug 15, 2023 20:28:35   #
CJW Loc: Massachusetts
 
Keeping it covered is an excellent suggestion. I try to keep it out of the direct sunlight when I'm not using it. I actually carry it in the car in a collapsible cooler. It's a lovey purple color. :) But it is padded and it keeps it cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. I have been doing it for years with good luck. But I don't take it out in the field with me. Just the camera.

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