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Aug 7, 2023 16:57:46   #
mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT
 
bsprague wrote:
For what it is worth, the newest DJI drones have sensors to prevent that. Depending on user settings, the drone would stop, try to fly over or try to go around the object. My Mini 2 had none and I ran it into a couple things. My newer Mini 3 Pro has forward and rear sensors, but no side sensors. The newest DJI, the Air 3 has sensors with a 360 degree view.

What course? You pass the test? What drone do you have? What are you planning to do or want to do with your drone?


Interesting. Coincidentally my brother gave me a DJI mini2 for my birthday yesterday. Have never really been a drone person but this one interests me from the photography perspective so I’m going to learn how to fly it.Hopefully I won’t run it into a tree or mountain.

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Aug 7, 2023 22:41:38   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
JD750 wrote:
Not exactly. But it's a much easier test.

As of June 2021, recreational flyers are required to get a Trust Certificate. ;)

"The law requires that all recreational flyers pass an aeronautical knowledge and safety test and provide proof of passage if asked by law enforcement or FAA personnel. The Recreational UAS Safety Test (TRUST) was developed to meet this requirement. "
Source: https://www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_flyers/knowledge_test_updates

To get that you can go here:
https://trust.pilotinstitute.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwib2mBhDWARIsAPZUn_kGJWw9aAWb_FHYFzyOzYPhLPtMKZJNfSXiezNfbkdvecLev8IOShkaAq5-EALw_wcB

Or type "Drone Trust Certificate" into Google.
Not exactly. But it's a much easier test. br br A... (show quote)


I was not aware of that rule/law....Thank you for informing me

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Aug 7, 2023 22:50:02   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
mr spock wrote:
Interesting. Coincidentally my brother gave me a DJI mini2 for my birthday yesterday. Have never really been a drone person but this one interests me from the photography perspective so I’m going to learn how to fly it.Hopefully I won’t run it into a tree or mountain.


The Mini 2 does not have obstacle clearance. That does not start until the Mini 3 Pro and up.

The Mini 2 does wonderful photos and videos. I've been using one for almost two years and am very pleased.

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Aug 7, 2023 23:00:01   #
mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT
 
bsprague wrote:
The Mini 2 does not have obstacle clearance. That does not start until the Mini 3 Pro and up.

The Mini 2 does wonderful photos and videos. I've been using one for almost two years and am very pleased.


Now you have me stoked
Thank you!

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Aug 8, 2023 10:01:48   #
dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
dbrugger25 wrote:
This is not a reply, but it is another consideration.

I have a DJI Mavic Air 2 which is licensed. After September, it will not be legal unless I install a location transmitter/transponder under new FAA rules.

There is a possibility that DJI might issue a firmware upgrade. The drone does communcate with its hand controller so there is some possibility that it can be upgraded. The issue is that DJI and the retailers can make a lot more money selling attachable transmitters or new drones.

The FAA has indicated that older drones will not be grandfathered and be allowed to continue operating. If you have a drone that is over a year old you need to look into this matter. It might also be worth writing to your congressional representatives to get this policy recinded.

There are attachable transmitter kits on the market but it might be wise to follow this issue for a while before buying one.
This is not a reply, but it is another considerati... (show quote)


If any UHH member has updated information regarding the Transmitter/Transponder rule, please keep us updated.

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Aug 8, 2023 10:22:45   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
dbrugger25 wrote:
If any UHH member has updated information regarding the Transmitter/Transponder rule, please keep us updated.


I take it you are talking about it for drones. You can find the rules and proposed rules on the FAAs website and you can comment on the proposed rules within a specified time frame. They will usually give a date when it becomes effective after the comment period depending on the comments, if there is a lot of negative comments usually they will postpone the implementation until such time as all the negative issues have been addressed.

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Aug 8, 2023 11:07:21   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
dbrugger25 wrote:
If any UHH member has updated information regarding the Transmitter/Transponder rule, please keep us updated.


"Transponder" implies manned airplanes. The "ADS-B" system is well in place. "Real" airplanes that fly in "controlled airspace" have to have an ADS-B transponder.

The drone regulations are called "Remote ID" for "remote identification. Those FAA rules are also well in place. The FAA says that all drones manufactured after September last year have to have it built in. The FAA also says that (almost) all drones flown after Sept 16 this year have to have it operating.

There was an FAA industry conference last week where it was hinted that a delay might be forthcoming. The problem is that there are not enough companies making enough parts to make older drones capable of meeting the FAA rule.

Google search "remote id update" and you'll get a few hours of reading.

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Aug 8, 2023 11:12:00   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
marine73 wrote:
I take it you are talking about it for drones. You can find the rules and proposed rules on the FAAs website and you can comment on the proposed rules within a specified time frame. They will usually give a date when it becomes effective after the comment period depending on the comments, if there is a lot of negative comments usually they will postpone the implementation until such time as all the negative issues have been addressed.


The comment period is long past. The FAA got 50,000 comments from drone operators that didn't want their location publicly broadcast. The FAA did it anyway. It was tested in court and that failed to get it changed.

Remote ID for drones is not proposed. It is coded into the FAA system. Operator compliance is scheduled for next month.

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Aug 9, 2023 01:52:16   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
hookedupin2005 wrote:
I was not aware of that rule/law....Thank you for informing me

You are welcome.

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Aug 9, 2023 08:55:48   #
dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I appreciate ll the responses. I bought a DJI Mavic Air 2 from Amazon in March, 2023 that is non-compliant. I feel cheeted. At the time, I was new to drones and never knew about the new regulations. Even when I registered it and attained the drone pilot's license there was no information about the new regulations. If there were a hint about the regs I would not have purchased it.

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Aug 9, 2023 10:03:52   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
dbrugger25 wrote:
I appreciate ll the responses. I bought a DJI Mavic Air 2 from Amazon in March, 2023 that is non-compliant. I feel cheeted. At the time, I was new to drones and never knew about the new regulations. Even when I registered it and attained the drone pilot's license there was no information about the new regulations. If there were a hint about the regs I would not have purchased it.
”While Remote ID rules are only now being applied to pilots, the industry has been preparing for the new regulations since it was published in 2021.

Manufacturers were required to comply as of Sept. 16, 2022, meaning that all new drones sold should have Remote ID technology.

To make sure that you’re good to fly, check the Public DOC list, published by the FAA, and filter by RID to confirm that your UAV or broadcast module is in compliance with the rule.”

source: https://dronelife.com/2023/07/16/are-you-ready-for-remote-id-faa-publishes-guidelines/#:~:text=Beginning%20on%20September%2016%2C%202023,module%20like%20a%20portable%20transmitter.

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Aug 9, 2023 10:15:54   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Good source for more information on commercial drone license requirements.
https://www.faa.gov/uas/commercial_operators/become_a_drone_pilot

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Aug 9, 2023 11:09:08   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
dbrugger25 wrote:
I appreciate ll the responses. I bought a DJI Mavic Air 2 from Amazon in March, 2023 that is non-compliant. I feel cheeted. At the time, I was new to drones and never knew about the new regulations. Even when I registered it and attained the drone pilot's license there was no information about the new regulations. If there were a hint about the regs I would not have purchased it.


Based on (too much!) reading on various other sites, you have a good chance that DJI will update the firmware on the Air 2. There is also a good chance that the FAA will be pushing back the deadline because it is become impossible for too many to comply.

In any case, keep using your drone. Although the rules are changing, the enforcement will be weak or non existent until the the dust settles.

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Aug 9, 2023 13:55:42   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
bsprague wrote:
Based on (too much!) reading on various other sites, you have a good chance that DJI will update the firmware on the Air 2. There is also a good chance that the FAA will be pushing back the deadline because it is become impossible for too many to comply.

In any case, keep using your drone. Although the rules are changing, the enforcement will be weak or non existent until the the dust settles.
since he bought it in 2023 it seems it should be compliant. (See above). He needs to check the FAA site and if it’s not then contact DJI.

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Aug 9, 2023 15:43:19   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
JD750 wrote:
since he bought it in 2023 it seems it should be compliant. (See above). He needs to check the FAA site and if it’s not then contact DJI.


There is a trick here. The FAA rule uses the date of manufacture, not the date of sale. So when he bought it does not matter.

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