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Aug 6, 2023 18:35:47   #
BebuLamar
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Saving on gas is both about saving money for yourself and helping the environment. Considering just the saving money for yourself part of the equation, the car you choose to buy in the first place is an important factor in how much money you will spend for gas. Lets say that you have a choice between a car for $10,000 that gets 20 mpg and one for $30,000 that gets 40 mpg, how many miles will you have to drive the economy car before you get that $20,000 difference in cost back? I have an Impala that doesn't get that stellar of performance for miles per gallon, but have put less than 25,000 miles on it in the over eight years I've been driving it.
Saving on gas is both about saving money for yours... (show quote)


If you only need to drive 3200 miles a year then whatever car you have it really doesn't matter. I had to drive on average 18,000 miles a year for the past 8 years.

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Aug 6, 2023 18:40:12   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
According to an article by the Family Handyman, you should not use your car's air conditioner if you want to save gas. Really?! Want to save money on gas? Lose weight - you and the car. Remove the spare tire, jack, and anything that isn't essential to the car's operation. Don't use anything electrical in the car, which means never driving at night. Drive slowly. Coast through stop signs. Inflate the tires to the maximum allowed

Here are more tips to save money in general. Don't heat your house in the winter. Don't wash your clothes. Don't vacuum your floors. Don't mow the lawn.

GM and Mythbusters did controlled tests, and both found that driving with the windows open uses less gas. How much less? I don't care! When I'm too warm in the car, I turn on the A/C. My gas mileage varies with every fill-up, but unless I did a very controlled study, I would not be able to tell the difference. Forgetting about the temperature, driving with the windows open is very noisy.

Being calm and comfortable makes for a safer drive. Eliminating just one unnecessary trip to the store could save more gas than keeping the windows open.

You know what's awful about this article? With record temperatures throughout the country, some poor old woman is going to suffer with the A/C off to save a nickel a day.
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The best way to save gas is to use your car less.

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Aug 6, 2023 18:42:00   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
Leaving the car in the garage saves gas too! 😁

Don

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Aug 6, 2023 18:50:32   #
Canisdirus
 
Not sure why this is an irritant...

This has been the advice since air conditioners have been in cars.

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Aug 6, 2023 22:16:19   #
tgreenhaw
 
Actually that sounds about right. In the winter cold, they run the engine with a rich mixture to heat up fast so that the emissions system functions. You get worse gas mileage as it warms up.

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Aug 6, 2023 22:17:11   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
therwol wrote:
You can "brake" by downshifting through the gears. I know someone who used to do that with his manual transmission. The problem with that is that your the brake lights don't come on, so the person behind you gets no warning that you're slowing down. I'm pretty sure that this method wouldn't save gas, since the engine revs up with each downshift.


And unless you match the revs exactly, there’s wear on the clutch and transmission synchros with each shift. Brake pads are a lot cheaper than clutch disks, throw out bearings and synchros.

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Aug 6, 2023 23:06:23   #
utahpete
 
Used to be the a/c was powered by a belt to the crankshaft and was a noticeable drag on the engine. Newer cars drive the a/c with an electric motor. Seems to hardly affect gas mileage. To me, at least.

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Aug 7, 2023 00:13:54   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Who in their right mind would buy a $50,000 car and try to save money by not using the A/C in 100 degree weather? Jack Benny?

When my wife and I moved to Texas from the north, we had a VW Bug and a Dodge Dart, neither of which had A/C. We survived because they had those little windows that you could open in front of the main windows on each door. We could direct the air onto our faces and bodies. I will say, though, that we were more than happy when the middle of September came.

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Aug 7, 2023 00:32:14   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
Those vent windows did help significantly directing the air and helping cool while moving.. And they aimed the bugs right at you quite well also. :)

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Aug 7, 2023 00:35:49   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
LDB415 wrote:
Those vent windows did help significantly directing the air and helping cool while moving.. And they aimed the bugs right at you quite well also. :)


Never did get hit by a bug coming through the vent windows. If anything, I think they splattered on the vent windows. As hot as it was when we got to Texas, we would have been lost without them. Thank goodness we were young, too. That made a difference.

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Aug 7, 2023 02:16:27   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If you only need to drive 3200 miles a year then whatever car you have it really doesn't matter. I had to drive on average 18,000 miles a year for the past 8 years.


That was my point. Sometimes people get caught up in the arguments and don't consider their own situation. Its like buying a boat and motor and fishing gear to save on your fish bill when you don't eat that much fish in the first place. In your case thats a lot of on the road, I bet your glad for the time you get to spend at home.

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Aug 7, 2023 02:16:33   #
Boris77
 
jerryc41 wrote:
According to an article by the Family Handyman, you should not use your car's air conditioner if you want to save gas. Really?! Want to save money on gas? Lose weight - you and the car. Remove the spare tire, jack, and anything that isn't essential to the car's operation. Don't use anything electrical in the car, which means never driving at night. Drive slowly. Coast through stop signs. Inflate the tires to the maximum allowed

Here are more tips to save money in general. Don't heat your house in the winter. Don't wash your clothes. Don't vacuum your floors. Don't mow the lawn.

GM and Mythbusters did controlled tests, and both found that driving with the windows open uses less gas. How much less? I don't care! When I'm too warm in the car, I turn on the A/C. My gas mileage varies with every fill-up, but unless I did a very controlled study, I would not be able to tell the difference. Forgetting about the temperature, driving with the windows open is very noisy.

Being calm and comfortable makes for a safer drive. Eliminating just one unnecessary trip to the store could save more gas than keeping the windows open.

You know what's awful about this article? With record temperatures throughout the country, some poor old woman is going to suffer with the A/C off to save a nickel a day.
According to an article by the Family Handyman, yo... (show quote)


I do like your suggestions in paragraph one. We in the City are doing our best to not stop at stop signs; I would prefer that they all be taken down inside the neighborhoods and half the number of yield signs be put up instead. And driving slow - A1+ idea. Lose weight - excellent! Good post!
I gained a good reputation for walking since I retired; cut my insurance rates.
Boris

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Aug 7, 2023 02:22:29   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
SteveR wrote:
Never did get hit by a bug coming through the vent windows. If anything, I think they splattered on the vent windows. As hot as it was when we got to Texas, we would have been lost without them. Thank goodness we were young, too. That made a difference.


I liked vent windows and wish they were still around. When the temperature is in a certain range, they provide their own kind of comfort that old timers who had them will understand and remember.

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Aug 7, 2023 05:42:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
HOHIMER wrote:
When I was going to school, I drove a 1934 Ford coupe with suicide doors and mechanical brakes, actuated via metal rods. These rods were prone to breaking or detaching themselves from one end or the other and dragging on the ground with lots of sparks. Being low on time(I worked full time) and finances, I would wait until all four rods had disconnected before fixing them. This meant I was driving most of the time with only one or two of the brakes working.

Sometimes, I drove that car with no brakes at all! I was always looking way ahead trying to see what was going on and adjusting my speed accordingly so I would not need to stop.

If I had to stop at a light I would judge the distance, turn off the ignition to stop the motor from rotating. Then, coast while in a low gear, use the clutch, with the dead motor as a brake, to slow the forward movement of the car. If I misjudged the distance, I would sometimes end up short of the mark or in the middle of the intersection. When the light turned green, I would simply restart the motor and drive on. Or, if the battery was dead, I would push it to get it started again. Try that with suicide doors!

I also stretched out my gas mileage in that car by pushing in the clutch(or putting the gearbox into neutral) anytime I was off the gas (Called FREE WHEELING). Then I used the technique above to slow or stop if the brakes were not working.
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Nice car. I bet it would sell for a fortune today. https://www.ebay.com/b/1934-Ford-Cars-Trucks/6001/bn_55179970

When I was a kid, we had a 1938 Olds convertible with a rumble seat.

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Aug 7, 2023 05:49:46   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
aphelps wrote:
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