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jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Drbobcameraguy wrote:

What makes you think people are not animals? Becau... (show quote)

I agree completely, and I hope we never find another planet to colonize and destroy. The latest trend is mining minerals from the bottom of the oceans. What could possibly go wrong?

Although humans are technically animals, we like to distinguish ourselves by calling us humans and them animals. Then we can kill and abuse them as much as we want. Unfortunately, we also kill and abuse humans on a regular basis, too. Unlike humans, animals don't usually kill and torture just for the fun of it.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

Mac wrote:

I read your entire post. You stated there that the card doesn’t stop fraudulent use. You repeated that statement here. Prove it. That is just an opinion and opinions are not facts. They are two completely different things. The information that I have provided in this thread are not my opinion, they are facts, verifiable facts. Back up what you say with verifiable facts.

No I have personally witnessed the use of the card by more than one person who bought the food stamps from the eligible person. If you come down from the Ivory tower and spend time with the poor and drug users you will immediately see I'm correct. Unfortunately I at one time in my past was a drug user and know all about the underbelly of society. Yes I even spent time in prison. I'm not proud of my past failures but I survived and have a better understanding of the system than most people.
Why do you think most guys end up going back to prison? It's very simple. You are let out with almost no money. Unless you are lucky enough to get into a halfway house you are on your own with no money. That money is spent having fun because you haven't had any in a bit. Now you are broke with a record and that eliminates most job opportunities. You already have a character defect. That's what got you in prison in the first place. Pride is a major reason a lot of people are in prison. They are to proud to ask for help to take care of things. Drugs is another. I would be willing to answer any questions about things you would like to know the truth about. It's not as depicted on TV. Lol

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

sodapop wrote:

There are many humans that have done good things. Your reply indicates we are all bad. Like fire and water, there are good and bad things people can do. Sorry you hate humans so much, but guess that you are stuck with it

I honestly believe most humans are good but even though we are good we will still kill for our government no matter right or wrong. Yes I'm stuck with it but if someone tries to tell me we are not animals they are not looking at the entire picture. Lol

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

jerryc41 wrote:

I agree completely, and I hope we never find anoth... (show quote)

I knew I liked you Jerry. Lol. I also like your post and sense of humor. Lol

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

Ava'sPapa wrote:

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Oh, how true!

bwa

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Drbobcameraguy wrote:

No I have personally witnessed the use of the card... (show quote)

trinhqthuan Loc: gaithersburg

Mac wrote:

That’s interesting. You say you know a lot of peop... (show quote)

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

trinhqthuan wrote:

If you believe the card stops fraud come visit. I can show you just how wrong you are. Eaton Ohio

BurghByrd Loc: Pittsburgh

Yes but the animal can't vote.

Klickitatdave Loc: Seattle Washington

Ava'sPapa wrote:

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I know it has been already stated, this example of "Irony" is a false equivalency. First, it assumes that if people were unable to receive food assistance they would automatically go find a good-paying job and that the problem of hunger would just go away. The fact is that our economy is based on the premise that not everyone is or can be employed. The largest percentage of people who receive food assistance are disabled or unable to financially survive without it. Many are families with children who are stuck working in jobs that pay minimum wages which cannot meet the cost of living in the areas where they live. Many are in rural communities where employment options are limited, very limited. In other words, these families and individuals are too poor to move to areas with higher employment opportunities and lower costs of living.

Second, there is an unspoken assumption built into this example of "Irony" that those who get food assistance really do not want to work and would rather live "Off the dole". This could be further from the truth. Before retiring I worked in a Mental Health agency that also provided counseling and services to people who were in the lowest economic strata. I personally worked with hundreds of individuals who needed help in the form of "Welfare" and food assistance. With the exception of a small subset of clients most wanted to work and not be dependent on "Entitlements" to survive. People do not naturally want to become dependent on others including governmental programs. However, there are situations and conditions where it sadly becomes necessary to seek support and where there are no non-governmental sources available to them.

Our species falls into the animal kingdom but we have evolved to have the ability to have compassion for others and are successful enough that we can afford to give help to those who need it. I am sorry if this has come across as being too preachy and lengthy but I believe that it was important to communicate. I know that given a little more time I might have done a better job of communicating these points but life is what it is.

MosheR Loc: New York City

Klickitatdave wrote:

I know it has been already stated, this example of "Irony" is a false equivalency. First, it assumes that if people were unable to receive food assistance they would automatically go find a good-paying job and that the problem of hunger would just go away. The fact is that our economy is based on the premise that not everyone is or can be employed. The largest percentage of people who receive food assistance are disabled or unable to financially survive without it. Many are families with children who are stuck working in jobs that pay minimum wages which cannot meet the cost of living in the areas where they live. Many are in rural communities where employment options are limited, very limited. In other words, these families and individuals are too poor to move to areas with higher employment opportunities and lower costs of living.

Second, there is an unspoken assumption built into this example of "Irony" that those who get food assistance really do not want to work and would rather live "Off the dole". This could be further from the truth. Before retiring I worked in a Mental Health agency that also provided counseling and services to people who were in the lowest economic strata. I personally worked with hundreds of individuals who needed help in the form of "Welfare" and food assistance. With the exception of a small subset of clients most wanted to work and not be dependent on "Entitlements" to survive. People do not naturally want to become dependent on others including governmental programs. However, there are situations and conditions where it sadly becomes necessary to seek support and where there are no non-governmental sources available to them.

Our species falls into the animal kingdom but we have evolved to have the ability to have compassion for others and are successful enough that we can afford to give help to those who need it. I am sorry if this has come across as being too preachy and lengthy but I believe that it was important to communicate. I know that given a little more time I might have done a better job of communicating these points but life is what it is.

I know it has been already stated, this example of... (show quote)

Amen.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

BurghByrd wrote:

Yes but the animal can't vote.

They are smart enough not to require a government for their survival. Lol lol. I'm thinking they are smarter than us now. 60 percent of earned money is given to the government. Unfortunately that is the total tax burden of the average American worker.

edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho

Klickitatdave wrote:

I know it has been already stated, this example of "Irony" is a false equivalency. First, it assumes that if people were unable to receive food assistance they would automatically go find a good-paying job and that the problem of hunger would just go away. The fact is that our economy is based on the premise that not everyone is or can be employed. The largest percentage of people who receive food assistance are disabled or unable to financially survive without it. Many are families with children who are stuck working in jobs that pay minimum wages which cannot meet the cost of living in the areas where they live. Many are in rural communities where employment options are limited, very limited. In other words, these families and individuals are too poor to move to areas with higher employment opportunities and lower costs of living.

Second, there is an unspoken assumption built into this example of "Irony" that those who get food assistance really do not want to work and would rather live "Off the dole". This could be further from the truth. Before retiring I worked in a Mental Health agency that also provided counseling and services to people who were in the lowest economic strata. I personally worked with hundreds of individuals who needed help in the form of "Welfare" and food assistance. With the exception of a small subset of clients most wanted to work and not be dependent on "Entitlements" to survive. People do not naturally want to become dependent on others including governmental programs. However, there are situations and conditions where it sadly becomes necessary to seek support and where there are no non-governmental sources available to them.

Our species falls into the animal kingdom but we have evolved to have the ability to have compassion for others and are successful enough that we can afford to give help to those who need it. I am sorry if this has come across as being too preachy and lengthy but I believe that it was important to communicate. I know that given a little more time I might have done a better job of communicating these points but life is what it is.

I know it has been already stated, this example of... (show quote)

Very well stated.

Ed

edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho

Drbobcameraguy wrote:

They are smart enough not to require a government for their survival. Lol lol. I'm thinking they are smarter than us now. 60 percent of earned money is given to the government. Unfortunately that is the total tax burden of the average American worker.

Source?

tomg54 Loc: Beaver PA,

nailed it!