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How much evidence do you need?
Jul 22, 2023 17:27:15 #
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
Effate wrote:
Both IRS investigators testified under oath that several hundred thousand owed/unreported for 2014and2015 but the statutes were allowed to run. They also testified they were prevented from searching a storage facility that they believed contained germane records and that Hunter’s attorneys were tipped off.
Based on my several years investigating whistle blower complaints in Corporate America, I still have some questions:
"Owed/unreported" what? Tax returns? Still not clear what you mean by "statutes were allowed to run". Statute of Limitations issue?
Was this testimony ever corroborated? Was the testimony ever submitted to cross-X? What has the investigative team said in response? Not trying to be difficult, but these are some of the ways proffered evidence is tested for credibility. This is how we get from allegation to proof.
If you would provide some links, it could help me understand the points you are trying to make.
Jul 22, 2023 17:41:13 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
DennyT wrote:
I Once heard no one ever goes to jail for not paying taxes. They may go for evasion or not filing but not for not paying.
Is it not paying your taxes or not filing your tax return the same thing as evasion?
Jul 22, 2023 18:04:48 #
Racmanaz wrote:
Is it not paying your taxes or not filing your tax return the same thing as evasion?
No really I don’t think. Is an honest math mistake evasion - no But intentional hidding income or not filing to avoid taxes is don’t you think
Jul 22, 2023 18:21:41 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
DennyT wrote:
No really I don’t think. Is an honest math mistake evasion - no But intentional hiddinv income to avoid taxes is day don’t you think
I’m talking about intentionally not filing your taxes or not paying taxes
Jul 22, 2023 18:26:20 #
Racmanaz wrote:
I’m talking about intentionally not filing your taxes or not payinge taxes
Then you doing one of the other things ( hiding income , not filing, etc ) but simply no paying taxes dosent put you in jail is what I heard. At least that what I heard.
Jul 22, 2023 19:07:32 #
DennyT wrote:
The question I have and that has not been answered is what others of similar charges got for punishment. Not the max available sentences/ what was actually handed down.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2023/06/20/hunter-biden-failed-to-pay-taxes-heres-why-hes-likely-not-going-to-jail/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2023/06/20/hunter-biden-failed-to-pay-taxes-heres-why-hes-likely-not-going-to-jail/
You are asking the wrong question. It isn't what others with similar charges get. It's what charges should Hunter have gotten and what punishment do those individuals get.
For example virtually no one gets jail time for the gun charge Hunter got, but they do get jail time if they brandished the gun in a dangerous manner and are actually charged with that. Hunter did brandish the gun, but he wasn't charged with that. Second, Manifort got jail time not because of his taxes but because he did not register as a foreign agent. Well, neither did Hunter. Third, according to the whistle blowers Hunter's most serious tax fraud was in 2014 and 2015, but the IRS investigators were not allowed to question Hunter or see the laptop, and the statute of limitations was allowed to run out on those charges.
I could go on, but hopefully you get the point. The question should be why is Hunter being both investigated differently and charged differently than others have been?
Jul 22, 2023 19:09:10 #
DennyT wrote:
I Once heard no one ever goes to jail for not paying taxes. They may go for evasion or not filing but not for not paying.
They get serious time for money laundering and there is plenty of proof that the Biden family opened at least 20 shell companies. That means they were money laundering.
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Jul 22, 2023 19:24:34 #
letmedance wrote:
Let me correct that for you, an investigated report. If it is unsubstantiated then why and the FBI fight so hard to not turn it over?
Denny T sounds like a typical brain dead DemoKKKrap, jealous that they didn't get a share of the money. The Bidens are corrupt to the bone, therefore
F JB should be in prison with his crackhead son.
Jul 22, 2023 20:48:29 #
btbg wrote:
They get serious time for money laundering and there is plenty of proof that the Biden family opened at least 20 shell companies. That means they were money laundering.
Proof ?
Jul 22, 2023 21:07:18 #
letmedance wrote:
Let me correct that for you, an investigated report. If it is unsubstantiated then why and the FBI fight so hard to not turn it over?
It was probably held back because it was unsubstantiated - without those "taped" conversations it is strictly a less than credible source blowing smoke. Also the informant said it would take years to track the payments.
If the informant has the tapes, why is he sitting on them? A good guess is that they don't exist.
I think its a disgrace that Hunter was paid whatever for being on the board of the utility; he leveraged Daddy; just like Jared leveraged Daddy-in-law for the Saudi deal. Immoral & unethical yes; against the law, unfortunately probably no.
Jul 22, 2023 21:34:29 #
DennyT wrote:
Proof ?
Have you not been paying attention to the news. Comer produced the bank documents that show that nine Biden family members had money put into their bank accounts from shell companies. By definition the only reason people have shell companies is to hide revenue or illegal activities. The assumption is that in this case it was to hide revenue.
Just having money go through a shell company to an individual is by definition money laundering. That and not registering as a foreign agent is what Manifort got in trouble for. Hunter did both exactly the same. How is that not proof?
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Jul 22, 2023 21:51:29 #
btbg wrote:
Have you not been paying attention to the news. Co... (show quote)
Having shell companies is smoke, but money laundering, influence peddling, hiding money from taxation and other crimes are the gun. So far, a lot of smoke, but no evidence of any of the other things. Tracing the funds is done to show the actual transactions and how they tie to a specific crime. Come back with that and they'll have indictment worthy evidence.
Jul 22, 2023 21:57:01 #
Triple G wrote:
Having shell companies is smoke, but money laundering, influence peddling, hiding money from taxation and other crimes are the gun. So far, a lot of smoke, but no evidence of any of the other things. Tracing the funds is done to show the actual transactions and how they tie to a specific crime. Come back with that and they'll have indictment worthy evidence.
We already know that he hid money from taxation. Remember he has tax charges for not paying all of his taxes in two years and the whistle blowers say he committed felonies hiding his income in 2014 and 2015. The evidence is already there, the bank records that Comer subpoenaed, coupled with the IRS agents testimony should be plenty to proof that he was hiding income.
Jul 22, 2023 22:14:58 #
Bazbo wrote:
When it came to Russia, I always said lets said let's see where the evidence leads. And you have no idea what I actually said, do you little troll? Or if you do, then you are a guttersnipe little liar. Provide a link.
We know you well enough to show you sound like a typical low life DemoKKKrap.
Jul 22, 2023 23:33:28 #
scooter1
Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
Effate wrote:
Sounds like you are making a tree falling in the forrest argument. Are you arguing that short of an indictment that crime hasn’t been committed and there can be no evidence of the same? A bigger concern for me in this whole equation isn’t getting Hunter or even Joe, it’s the appearance of impropriety, the enthusiasm the DOJ/FBI employs in the investigation of certain individuals vs. others, disparate treatment.
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