Urnst
Loc: Brownsville, Texas
B&H has what appear to be full featured video cameras for prices way less than typical still cameras? Why don't video makers use these instead of still cameras?
One less item to carry around.
Convenience???
Most still cameras these days are capable of doing video, including cell phones so why not use what you already have?
Urnst wrote:
B&H has what appear to be full featured video cameras for prices way less than typical still cameras? Why don't video makers use these instead of still cameras?
Because video quality is from good to excellent and... A real video is rarely made of a single long shoot but short clips 'pasted' together. A pro video camera cost $$$ a great camera cost $. The now fading limitation in time that was mandatory in dual-purpose cameras creates another incentive (even if one uses clips and not the full recording).
I take lots of photos & video clips in my traveling (that I later combine with text & music in Pwr Director). Was so happy when I could combine shooting into one camera. On travels don't always have time to switch cameras, get off standby, etc. Now its just push the red button instead of shutter one.
BTW, if next generation of phones advance pass my Samsung S23 Ultra, besides leaving video camera home may leave my DSLR too.
Urnst wrote:
B&H has what appear to be full featured video cameras for prices way less than typical still cameras? Why don't video makers use these instead of still cameras?
This question interests me, also. As an Industrial Engineer, I believe strongly in using the proper tool to do the job.
Most video captured with still-format cameras or cell phones isn't very good if closely examined. It tends to be very "home movieish," with too much unintentional camera movement and way too much panning and zooming. Many video websites are the same, even if they use purposed video cameras.
There is a term for this style, "cinema verite." It was popular in the movies and on television for a few minutes many years ago. Remenber "Hill Street Blues?" For me, it fails totally with today's excessively sharp high resolution images. It is laborious and tiring (and tiresome) to watch.
If this communicates too much thought to you, let me just sum it up by saying that most video today is really pretty bad. The quality bar is set pretty low for pictures that move.
Urnst wrote:
B&H has what appear to be full featured video cameras for prices way less than typical still cameras? Why don't video makers use these instead of still cameras?
Lately Im using a video camera for stills. You can get some interesting features by using the "wrong genre", like 75fps burst speed at 25MP raw+jpeg. My particular choice of camera can also composite a 1/10sec burst into a 100MP hi rez still.
Acoarst I agree with all who questioned that, since weve already got a phone and a video-capable ILC, then why should we deploy yet another device ?
Urnst
Loc: Brownsville, Texas
larryepage wrote:
This question interests me, also. As an Industrial Engineer, I believe strongly in using the proper tool to do the job.
Most video captured with still-format cameras or cell phones isn't very good if closely examined. It tends to be very "home movieish," with too much unintentional camera motion and way too much panning and zooming. Many video websites are the same, even if they use purposed video cameos.
There is a term for this style, "cinema verite." It was popular in the movies and on television for a few minutes many years ago. Remenber "Hill Street Blues?" For me, it fails totally with today's excessively sharp high resolution images. It is laborious and tiring (and tiresome) to watch.
If this communicates too much thought to you, let me just sum it up by saying that most video today is really pretty bad. The quality bar is set pretty low for pictures that move.
This question interests me, also. As an Industrial... (
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Thanks for an interesting and thoughtful reply.
Urnst wrote:
B&H has what appear to be full featured video cameras for prices way less than typical still cameras? Why don't video makers use these instead of still cameras?
The ultimate answer is that they are just less costly and use larger imaging chips than lower cost video-only cameras. Larger imaging chip - potential shallower DOF - more "Hollywood" type movie look.
The Sony PXW-Z190 with a 1/3" sensor is $3700 at B&H - a still camera with a DX chip has a larger imaging area by quite a bit. are most amateurs not faimliar with the concepts of holding the camera motionless (to avoid that verite look)? Of course not - at least not until they get seasick watching the playback on their large screen TV at home. But the pros who use them have the knowledge and accessory gear to make good video with a camera that costs far less than a RED or whatever.
Interesting video on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/n1JkFZIEY_k
Urnst wrote:
B&H has what appear to be full featured video cameras for prices way less than typical still cameras? Why don't video makers use these instead of still cameras?
Real video cameras are very expensive.
It seems your comparison is not really peer-to-peer among models available.
There are inexpensive vlogging hybrid cameras and they are popular for that.
Urnst
Loc: Brownsville, Texas
User ID wrote:
Real video cameras are very expensive.
It seems your comparison is not really peer-to-peer among models available.
There are inexpensive vlogging hybrid cameras and they are popular for that.
B&H has Sony video only cameras, with lens included, for $300 and up. So what if the sensor is smaller than still camera sensors; I doubt if, in practice, the smaller image sensors would affect the quality of most on the videos out there. Maybe some in the extremes, but not thousands of dollars worth of difference.
That said, thanks for your reply.
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