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Jul 10, 2023 17:57:08   #
ygelman Loc: new -- North of Poughkeepsie!
 
Rather than having to read about whether or not a work generated with Artificial Intelligence is art, I move that any such image be moved to its own group. That might also include new PS features, but that's something to consider.

At least, generating an image by verbally describing it should not be called photography.

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Jul 10, 2023 18:47:51   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
UHH is an income-generating business for its owner, but we don't have to pay to participate here. Am pretty sure your "move" is irrelevant to the business plan. Rants that generate pages of "discussion" are always welcome

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Jul 10, 2023 19:28:31   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
ygelman wrote:
Rather than having to read about whether or not a work generated with Artificial Intelligence is art, I move that any such image be moved to its own group. That might also include new PS features, but that's something to consider.

At least, generating an image by verbally describing it should not be called photography.


If you look at the long list of sections we already have, you should find exactly what you are looking for, propably at the bottom of the list.

One issue here at UHH is that many people ask for on thing or another, but can't be bothered looking to see if it already exists. A lot of folks here like to be spoon fed, it's part of what makes UHH what it is.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/all-section-list

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Jul 10, 2023 20:29:35   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
As Bill says such a place already exists but many of my composites contain AI images, stock photos from the internet as well my own images. How would you classify that?

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Jul 10, 2023 20:57:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
As Bill says such a place already exists but many of my composites contain AI images, stock photos from the internet as well my own images. How would you classify that?

Individually or as a mishmash?

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Jul 10, 2023 20:58:11   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bill_de wrote:
If you look at the long list of sections we already have, you should find exactly what you are looking for, propably at the bottom of the list.

One issue here at UHH is that many people ask for on thing or another, but can't be bothered looking to see if it already exists. A lot of folks here like to be spoon fed, it's part of what makes UHH what it is.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/all-section-list

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Jul 11, 2023 01:26:54   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
ygelman wrote:
Rather than having to read about whether or not a work generated with Artificial Intelligence is art, I move that any such image be moved to its own group. That might also include new PS features, but that's something to consider.

At least, generating an image by verbally describing it should not be called photography.

There is a group for pure AI posting. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-143-1.html

Not photography? Both true and false.

AI is used for many things when editing an existing photograph.

If you are not happy where folks post their creation (from a straight AI construct or from an edited capture) let that user know. Good luck with the reception you will get and quite honestly I would not take your defense. You have to be closed-minded not to see the many uses in photography.

Keep moving, soon your own web will tighten over you leaving you with no place to go.

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Jul 11, 2023 13:23:30   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
As Bill says such a place already exists but many of my composites contain AI images, stock photos from the internet as well my own images. How would you classify that?


There's already a term long used in the art world for it - mixed media, the media being photography and computer generated imagery. But here such composites should be in the AI Artistry and Creation section.

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Jul 11, 2023 13:56:23   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
There's already a term long used in the art world for it - mixed media, the media being photography and computer generated imagery. But here such composites should be in the AI Artistry and Creation section.
UHH is primarily a social sharing site, not a training/learning photography site.

That is why, despite the first sentence of Photo Gallery's rules being "This section is for posting pictures you took.", you will find photos taken by members' friends and families, as well as memes pulled off FB, as well as other non-hog-authored photos of "interest."

Currently, Digital Artistry section accepts composites that include AI elements. cwilson341 and I are the forum's co-managers; our decision was made prior to our learning of Rongnongno's AI-only site.

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Jul 11, 2023 14:01:52   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Small thoughts fit easily into a closed mind, but big thoughts require Artificial Intelligence.

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Jul 11, 2023 14:38:29   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Small thoughts fit easily into a closed mind, but big thoughts require Artificial Intelligence.


Welcome back. I thought you didn't love us any more

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Jul 11, 2023 14:40:48   #
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ygelman wrote:
Rather than having to read about whether or not a work generated with Artificial Intelligence is art, I move that any such image be moved to its own group. That might also include new PS features, but that's something to consider.

At least, generating an image by verbally describing it should not be called photography.

You "move that any such image" blah blah blah ?!?!? This isnt a parliamentary democracy so, fortunately, thaz pretty much just pissing into the wind.

AI isnt a problem in need of a solution. Its just a new way of doing the same old stuff. Given that repeating the same old stuff is a UHH Sacred Tradition, theres really no rationale for UHH to attempt to stifle or confine it.


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Jul 12, 2023 18:11:20   #
brentrh Loc: Deltona, FL
 
AI is all part of photography with modern cameras. Stop fearing AI it is just a tool I grow tired of purists hindering photography AI has its own group it is called photography

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Jul 12, 2023 18:26:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Fear of the unknown is a terrible fear.

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Jul 13, 2023 06:47:25   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
There's already a term long used in the art world for it - mixed media, the media being photography and computer generated imagery. But here such composites should be in the AI Artistry and Creation section.


I wonder if the term "Mixed Media" could be added to the title "AI Artistry and Creation".

It seems being inclusive would work well.

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