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Jul 6, 2023 06:47:26   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
Maybe a starting point would be to purchase your own fingertip oximeter, the kind that doctors use. They cost about $20 on Amazon. Normal O2 levels are anywhere from 95 to98. Anything below 95 during normal activities might indicate a problem. I'm not diagnosing anything but have one myself and always carry it.


A pulse ox is a nice little device to have. Keeping it in your pilot bag is sure to tell if your having a problem breathing. By then it might be too late.

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Jul 6, 2023 07:09:51   #
Tote1940 Loc: Dallas
 
While not in my specialty there are many non lung conditions with shortness of breath, congestive heart failure, kidney failure, restrictive lung diseases etc
Never use a treatment without a firm diagnosis plus monitoring of how effective it is.
Good luck.
Old, retired Doc.

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Jul 6, 2023 07:19:45   #
llamb Loc: Northeast Ohio
 
Tote1940 wrote:
While not in my specialty there are many non lung conditions with shortness of breath, congestive heart failure, kidney failure, restrictive lung diseases etc
Never use a treatment without a firm diagnosis plus monitoring of how effective it is.
Good luck.
Old, retired Doc.


Thanks, Tote1940.

~Lee

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Jul 6, 2023 07:43:41   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
This is a tip re: the benefit of obtaining a long connector hose with the unit. My wife needed the oxygen concentrator near the end. She had a terminal diagnosis, so Medicare paid for it. It came with a 75’ oxygen tube that connected the device to the nose. The length of the tube turned out to be a blessing. The unit produced a constant droning noise and the cooling fan emitted heat into the room. I was able to place the unit outside of the bedroom and run the tube under the closed bedroom door. This eliminated most of the noise and all of the heat from the unit. We started using it in the summer and didn’t need the extra warmth.

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Jul 6, 2023 08:19:49   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
clickety wrote:
You nailed it, it’s a racket. With my first CPAP I played the game, It “had” to go through insurance and the rent to fiasco. My copay (20%) was $40.00 per month for two years rental on a machine that was selling on Amazon for under $1,000 dollars, while Medicare was paying $160.00 per month over the same two year period. What can it be called besides GREED?


I really don't think anyone was twisting your arm to go through you insurance company on your first CPAP. You could have elected to pay the full price out of your bank account. It has been my experience that 100% of the patients we dealt with would always choose to have their bill paid for by their insurance company/Medicare etc. If that was the case, then the supplier has to play by the whatever the rules the insurance company/Medicare has for covering that medical device. Every insurance company has their own set of rules that a supplier has to abide by in order to get paid for their services. Anybody want to talk about denied claims, slow pay insurers or insurers that just drag their feet in paying claims. I am sorry you had a bad experience with your supplier but you have no clue how a supplier's business works.

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Jul 6, 2023 08:20:51   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Tote1940 wrote:
While not in my specialty there are many non lung conditions with shortness of breath, congestive heart failure, kidney failure, restrictive lung diseases etc
Never use a treatment without a firm diagnosis plus monitoring of how effective it is.
Good luck.
Old, retired Doc.


Old retired Respiratory Therapist.

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Jul 6, 2023 08:50:30   #
llamb Loc: Northeast Ohio
 
joehel2 wrote:
This is a tip re: the benefit of obtaining a long connector hose with the unit. My wife needed the oxygen concentrator near the end. She had a terminal diagnosis, so Medicare paid for it. It came with a 75’ oxygen tube that connected the device to the nose. The length of the tube turned out to be a blessing. The unit produced a constant droning noise and the cooling fan emitted heat into the room. I was able to place the unit outside of the bedroom and run the tube under the closed bedroom door. This eliminated most of the noise and all of the heat from the unit. We started using it in the summer and didn’t need the extra warmth.
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Thanks, joehel2, I'll keep that in mind.

~Lee

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Jul 6, 2023 08:55:50   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
clickety wrote:
Not to be a cloud over you, but oxygen is not manufactured, it exists. As to the rest of the comments, it’s still a free country and private sales behind closed doors are just that and nobody’s business. You mentioned being retired, good for you, but if your company was anything like the greedy self serving Home Health DME providers I’ve been forced to deal with, bad on you. We seem to have reached a point where private entries and insurance companies are our current default medical ‘experts’.

To the posters discussing the sale purchase and use of the device, please start private messaging and do what’s best for you. There’s no benefit to padding the pockets of the greedy monopolistic ‘professionals’.
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Yep, you are absolutely correct that Oxygen exits, I guess you could attach an oxygen nasal cannula to a tree and hope for the best. Concentrators draw in the room air and extract out all the Nitrogen, and trace gases leaving only pure oxygen, it is then compressed down and then metered out to the patient by way of a flow meter. Any malfunction in the whole process and the machine blows room air. Yeah, they have alarms they monitor the O2 percentage but alarms fail, machines fail, etc. I only made the comment about the legal requirements of selling O2 because people need to know. Personally people can do what ever they want and will in most cases but they should proceed with caution when selling medical equipment to a private individual. Don't forget, we live in a litigious society. If something happens to poor ol Mom/Dad/Grandma,the kids are going start looking for someone to sue. When their lawyer finds out you broke the law when selling them that concentrator they are going to come after you. There is a reason why medical professionals, suppliers etc have Medical liabilty insurance. For me, it wouldn't be worth the risk of losing my life savings in a lawsuit when someone gets hurt using medical equipment you sold them. Remember, Oxygen concentrators are not like a used Washing machine you buy at a garage sale. There are legitimate reasons my they are regulated under the law. Now, in case you are wondering, Douglas-fir, spruce, true fir, beech, and maple trees are toward the top of the list for oxygen release. Now, go get yourself a nasal cannula, a lawn chair and sit in the shade with a cold one. :-)

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Jul 6, 2023 09:58:00   #
cucharared Loc: Texas, Colorado
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Ron - you need to see a pulmonologist and have a full pulmonary function test done, including DLCO. If that test is negative, THEN consider an overnight home sleep test - which many insurance companies require before doing an in-lab overnight sleep test for Obstructive Sleep Apnea.


Thank you, Merlin. I’m contacting my doctor today.
Ron

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Jul 6, 2023 10:13:01   #
cucharared Loc: Texas, Colorado
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
Maybe a starting point would be to purchase your own fingertip oximeter, the kind that doctors use. They cost about $20 on Amazon. Normal O2 levels are anywhere from 95 to98. Anything below 95 during normal activities might indicate a problem. I'm not diagnosing anything but have one myself and always carry it.


Thanks. I have one, plus my Apple Watch has that function. So far both have looked good.
Ron

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Jul 6, 2023 10:48:51   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Fstop12 wrote:
I've seen medical devices for sale at garage sales.
I was merely stating the fact that selling Medical grade Oxygen or devices that produce it comes under certain laws and regulations.
The surprise is what happens when you follow the $$$

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Jul 6, 2023 16:00:03   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
I have had a home oxygen concentrator for over 8 years. It runs in conjunction with my cpap machine. Only used while sleeping. Also have a portable one that I only used once above 7,000 feet. Otherwise just sits in the closet. On my second home concentrater. Both were mostly covered by Medicare. Dr. diagnosed me originally has having mild copd with history of asthma. Home unit is about the size of s large suitcase & weighs about 35 pounds which is kind of a hassle to travel with. Portable unit only lasts abou 2-3 hours on a charge. Check with a reliable medical supply company. The one I use will, if possible, supply me a loaner delivered to my travel destination if possible. I think these are some of the issues I would recommend you ask about. Btw, in some states you mighty be eligible for a disabled placard or license plate depending on diagnosis.

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Jul 6, 2023 17:20:31   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
When you travel with a medical device within the USA - airlines cannot count your medical device as carry on luggage when you bring it into the cabin - even if you stow it overhead. Part of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

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Jul 6, 2023 18:36:48   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Fstop12 wrote:
I never said it doesn't happen. I've even seen medical devices for sale at garage sales. I was merely stating the fact that selling Medical grade Oxygen or devices that produce Medical grade Oxygen comes with certain laws and regulations.


And you will probably find that there are venues, air travel for instance, that will not allow admittance without seeing the Rx.

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Jul 6, 2023 23:00:14   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
TheShoe wrote:
And you will probably find that there are venues, air travel for instance, that will not allow admittance without seeing the Rx.
You are NUTS !! I've NEVER been questioned by airlines regarding my medical devices.

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