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Jun 29, 2023 21:01:51   #
Brian45 Loc: Melbourne, Australia
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our lives by not having enough experience or good sense to change the perspective when confronted with something...

What the heck this has to do with photography and smartphone?

Simple: I am tired of seeing folks using their phone vertically regardless of subject. I know the camera lenses are on top but come on, open the field, use horizontal for god's sake, you will see your (err...) subjects better.

Ease of use, availability, does not justify sloppiness. A small twist of a wrist and that's it! There! A brand new worldwide is in front of your... camera.

Anyway, another rant...
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our l... (show quote)


Good rant too! 👍

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Jun 29, 2023 21:03:52   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Horseart wrote:
Depends on whether I am making a vertical or horizontal picture. I always use landscape mode for landscapes...IF I don't have my cameras with me. Also easier to type in the landscape mode.


Way, way back, in the late 1970s and maybe early 1980s, purpose-built word processing workstations were built with the CRT installed portrait-wise. The screen represented a sheet of paper sitting loaded in a typewriter carriage. I found the first 16:9/16:10 displays OK for working with spreadsheets but quite inconvenient and uncomfortable for word processing or publishing applications.

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Jun 29, 2023 21:16:23   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
User ID wrote:
Read stanikons instructions carefully.

Has any Hawgster attempted to perform the above actions ? Has anyone actually done it ? (I have slight carpal tunnel on my left arm and hand.)


Perhaps pictures will help. I will concede that the first part could have been clearer - the CUP is to the left, the fingers of the left hand point RIGHT.

If this is still confusing then I suggest you take the basic course from Emil Pakarklis. He has a whole lesson on how to do this. It can be used for portrait as well as landscape orientations and works well.







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Jun 29, 2023 22:09:04   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
stanikon wrote:
Perhaps pictures will help. I will concede that the first part could have been clearer - the CUP is to the left, the fingers of the left hand point RIGHT.

If this is still confusing then I suggest you take the basic course from Emil Pakarklis. He has a whole lesson on how to do this. It can be used for portrait as well as landscape orientations and works well.


Pictures always help!

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Jun 29, 2023 22:23:02   #
User ID
 
Bill_de wrote:
The pointing left was a bit confusing at first. I then realized the instructions left out the part about standing on your head.
Success is in the details.
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User ID dope slaps self !

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Jun 29, 2023 22:46:09   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
User ID wrote:
User ID dope slaps self !


No comment.

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Jun 29, 2023 23:00:40   #
User ID
 
stanikon wrote:
No comment.

Thaz (always) a false remark.

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Jun 29, 2023 23:21:32   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
User ID wrote:
Thaz (always) a false remark.


All generalities are false, including this one.

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Jun 30, 2023 00:24:02   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
larryepage wrote:
Way, way back, in the late 1970s and maybe early 1980s, purpose-built word processing workstations were built with the CRT installed portrait-wise. The screen represented a sheet of paper sitting loaded in a typewriter carriage. I found the first 16:9/16:10 displays OK for working with spreadsheets but quite inconvenient and uncomfortable for word processing or publishing applications.


I have a 2020 model 27" LG monitor that rotates to vertical for vertical document editing. But since it is a 4K model, I have no trouble editing two pages of a Word document side by side, in horizontal mode.

I used the vertical mode exactly once, and realized it is practically unnecessary.

Monitors have come along way since the rotatable ones of the 1980s. I had a Radius on a Mac back then. It was great for that time in equipment evolution.

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Jun 30, 2023 00:26:59   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our lives by not having enough experience or good sense to change the perspective when confronted with something...

What the heck this has to do with photography and smartphone?

Simple: I am tired of seeing folks using their phone vertically regardless of subject. I know the camera lenses are on top but come on, open the field, use horizontal for god's sake, you will see your (err...) subjects better.

Ease of use, availability, does not justify sloppiness. A small twist of a wrist and that's it! There! A brand new worldwide is in front of your... camera.

Anyway, another rant...
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our l... (show quote)


Interesting rant sort of. A camera is a camera, whether it is part of a cellphone, slr, mirrorless, point and shoot, or whatever other type of camera. A true photographer will take great pictures with any of the above. Then there are the rest that just take pictures and do not care about the quality. If everyone cared and took great photographs, then there would be little need for professional photographers.

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Jun 30, 2023 02:19:35   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our lives by not having enough experience or good sense to change the perspective when confronted with something...

What the heck this has to do with photography and smartphone?

Simple: I am tired of seeing folks using their phone vertically regardless of subject. I know the camera lenses are on top but come on, open the field, use horizontal for god's sake, you will see your (err...) subjects better.

Ease of use, availability, does not justify sloppiness. A small twist of a wrist and that's it! There! A brand new worldwide is in front of your... camera.

Anyway, another rant...
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our l... (show quote)


It really bugs me as well. There is something called YouTube shorts and every video is 60 seconds or less and must be captured with phone cameras in portrait mode. Yuck!

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Jun 30, 2023 02:34:44   #
User ID
 
stanikon wrote:
All generalities are false, including this one.

Could you be more specific ?

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Jun 30, 2023 06:34:18   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our lives by not having enough experience or good sense to change the perspective when confronted with something...

What the heck this has to do with photography and smartphone?

Simple: I am tired of seeing folks using their phone vertically regardless of subject. I know the camera lenses are on top but come on, open the field, use horizontal for god's sake, you will see your (err...) subjects better.

Ease of use, availability, does not justify sloppiness. A small twist of a wrist and that's it! There! A brand new worldwide is in front of your... camera.

Anyway, another rant...
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our l... (show quote)


Teens do that

Worse yet: they do group photos holding the phone vertically... so they get a lot of sky and street and very little people in the frame.

The usual response when trying to correct them is "get lost"

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Jun 30, 2023 10:14:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jlg1000 wrote:
Teens do that

Worse yet: they do group photos holding the phone vertically... so they get a lot of sky and street and very little people in the frame.

The usual response when trying to correct them is "get lost"


You can't TELL teens much of anything. You have to demonstrate how much better something can be when done another way.

Frankly, there is nothing unusual about vertical groups. A good example is a small group of people posed on a narrow set of stairs. This is a classic composition used by many school yearbook photographers for class officer photos, small teams, and other small groups. Done properly, it can make faces bigger in the yearbook.

I've always resisted using the terms "landscape" and "portrait" for rectangular orientations. "Vertical" and "Horizontal" are less presumptive. If you want to be mathematically neutral about it, image dimensions are expressed properly as width before height. A 5x4 is horizontal, while a 4x5 is vertical... That is an industry standard in the printing, publishing, and photo lab worlds.

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Jun 30, 2023 10:24:04   #
User ID
 
jlg1000 wrote:
Teens do that

Worse yet: they do group photos holding the phone vertically... so they get a lot of sky and street and very little people in the frame.

The usual response when trying to correct them is "get lost"

A verrrrrrrrry suitable response !!!!

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