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Jun 23, 2023 11:16:18   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rehess wrote:
It depends on what the photo is of. If I went to the Grand Canyon and took only one photo of a Condor, I would keep it even if I had originally given it a low score.


Why?
There are billions of awesome Grand Canyon photos to look at unless it is a backdrop for a family record photo.

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Jun 23, 2023 11:21:56   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
mr spock wrote:
It certainly sounds like the trip of a lifetime to me. I hope you didn’t miss any real life experiences because you were too involved in taking photos


Ha! The photos are what capture the "real life" experiences!!

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Jun 23, 2023 11:36:05   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
larryepage wrote:
That sounds like a great vacation. I can see that every shot you took documented something that caught your attention. If an image didn't have immediate recognition when you returned, there's a good chance that there will be a discussion somewhere down the line when the subject will come up as a question in conversation. It's also possible if you have an inquisitive mind that you may have a question when reviewing an image that can be answered by looking at the images just before or just after. So from my perspective, I'd suggest keeping them all, even if you do so via some sort of offline method.

Now let me ask you this question...was this a three week vacation? If so, you averaged about 325 pictures per day. If you were out and about for ten and a half hours per day, that means you snapped an image just about every two minutes all day long. For me, that's a lot of snapping.

And by the way...don't discard those experiments that didn't work. If you really want to learn that new technique, you need to study and understand what went wrong. That's the only way you can figure out how to reliably make things go right next time. I'd create a folder with images that I captured while learning. Eventually when you have everything figured out, you can decide whether to delete the whole folder.

Having said all this, I do not take this many images when I go on vacation. I am on vacation to see, experience, and maybe learn a little bit. I want to remember having been to a place or to an event. That can't be accomplished while concentrating on a camera or watching everything through a viewfinder, whether it's optical or electronic. For me, 100 shots a day represents pretty intense shooting. A year ago I attended a railroad history convention in Kansas City. We did two days of extensive touring with many stops for exploration, including a half-day train ride. I took a total of 255 carefully selected exposures and kept 250 of them. A few of those were shot through bus windows and include reflections. They are keepers, too, because they record unique experiences that are unlikely ever to be duplicated, like underneath a large crane unloading containers from railcars. Another is from the very heart of the BNSF Railway's Argentine Yard. The reflections don't matter. They are actually part of the experience. There are some "artistic" exposures also, like the decorated ceilings in Kansas City Union Passenger Terminal or a parallel track speeding by from the window of the Southwest Chief.

I'm not telling you all this claiming to be a great photographer. Some of what I kept would be of little or no interest to almost anyone else. But it's of interest to me. And I'm pretty proud of it and will look at it again down the road.
That sounds like a great vacation. I can see that... (show quote)


That's a strange way to look at it from my perspective. I take a lot of photos no matter what the genre. But that's not spread evenly through out the day. I might go an hour or more between photos. But when it's time to shoot I'm shooting! I shoot primarily wildlife, which is primarily action of some kind, but even if it's not, I constantly check for exposure, focus etc. And make corrections as needed.

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Jun 23, 2023 11:38:31   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I keep them all. Space is relatively cheap. I process those I think are best or that best fit the purpose. These have only basic processing and are for sharing with friends. I save these as small, low res images in a subfolder labeled LR sm. I then choose from these what I think are the best with some artistic value to post to my art website for sale. These are saved as TIFFs in a folder I simply call LR. I save the entire set of originals. One never knows but what some time down the road one might now strike one's fancy.

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Jun 23, 2023 11:43:09   #
KerryF
 
Thanks to all that replied, it was very interesting and as to be expected, everyone had a different opinion. For those who thought I took to many pictures and not taking in the experience without the camera in front of my face, let me explain my way of doing things. I leave my camera on burst mode 99% of the time regardless of what I am shooting (wildlife, landscape, or cityscape). I have a Nikon 7200 with 2 card slots, six 64GB cards (plus some older 32GB cards), so I am able to take a lot of pictures if need be. This was a 4 week trip going from the Amazon Tropics (we did a one day excursion to Uguazu Falls) to Antarctica. Normally our trips are two weeks long but some friends invited us to go on this trip with them. Most of our trips are tours, so this a vacation trip where I bring a camera as oppose to travel photography (whether it is around the corner or halfway around the world) where I don't get to plan out the shot the day before and then come back the following day at the right time to get the perfect shot. I'm there when I'm there and a take the shot that is available to me, even if it's high noon with hundreds of tourists around blocking my shot. Also, the definition of keepers is not black or white, if it's perfect you keep it, if not, delete it. For example, we went to Iceland in January to see the Northern Lights and I brought all the proper gear (such as a tripod) to capture the moment. Well, it was always cloudy and did not see them. Then we went to Churchill, Canada at the end of August to see the Polar Bears and Beluga Whales, which we did, but we also got to see the Northern Lights, but it was in less than ideal conditions. Had to deal with street lights and I didn't have my tripod, so the pictures were hand held. I had to jackup my ISO really high to minimize the shutterspeed, so my pictures were noisey and far from perfect, but they were keepers (memories!).

Some times the tours have special excursions like the time we were in India and we toured the Taj Mahal. The first time was midday and I took what I could get. The next morning, for those who wanted to go, we got up at 5am to do a sunrise tour of the Taj Mahal. A dramatic difference with no tourists in the way.





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Jun 23, 2023 11:52:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
FreddB wrote:
How many? TOO!!!


Do you mean "two"?

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Jun 23, 2023 12:00:25   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
KerryF wrote:
So I recently went to Bueno Aires and Antarctica and I took a total of 6700 pictures....... Then my wife got involved to start putting them into a photo book and the final number of pictures that made it was 550 pictures..


I think we all take more (low cost) digital exposures than we do/did with (expensive) film. Also, digital PP is faster (and more repeatable) than darkroom film processing. With the help of your wife, it looks like your keeper rate is about 8.2%....that’s a pretty good rate.

Personally, my workflow (culling and PP editing) has evolved with my digital photo experience…becoming more critical, my keeper rate has decreased (depending on the subject). After studying the composition and metadata, I eventually discard almost all the ones that are not worthy posting for view.

I would suggest you keep as many of the doubtful ones (200) for a while. Enjoy the ones you posted in your book. Then, one day go back and have a second look at the doubtful 200. Since this was a onetime trip of a lifetime, you may find a few more “gems” among them that are now worth processing and posting to your photo book. Then make another keeper decision (but ask your wife first). Good Luck Sir.

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Jun 23, 2023 12:22:47   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
[quote=KerryF]....."Also, the definition of keepers is not black or white, if it's perfect you keep it, if not, delete it".

Humm, sounds like you've already have a decisive criteria. I'm not sure why you asked your original question, "How Many Picture Do You Keep From a Vacation"? Were you just asking for "average "keeper" rates", for statistical comparisons or just competitive curiosity?

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Jun 23, 2023 12:56:39   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
When on a tour I average about 100-150 shots a day. Terrible ones are deleted in the camera. When I get home I get rid of the totally useless ones (blank sky, feet, or so blurry they are unrecognizable). The rest get imported into Lightroom and I process them. More will be removed from the catalog during this activity (duplicates, and unrecognizable). I then go back through the processed photos and decide which ones I want to upload to Flickr, maybe 2/3 of them (I keep a lot of unremarkable photos to act as memory joggers--I am, after all, immortalizing my trip). The upload to Flickr also organized the photos into Albums. Sometimes I decide to post photos from Flickr to UHH, and I try to pick representative ones of reasonable quality for that purpose. I am aware that UHH has limits on how many images to post in a Topic, and I do attempt to follow them. However, since I'm only posting links to the photos, I allow myself to exceed the number sometimes, and the management seems to allow it.

All the photos that survive the initial triage stay resident in my external drive. The LR edit files are also stored there. The external drive currently contains almost 130,000 images in about 2200 folders (typically organized by day of tour).

My Flickr photos are initially organized into Albums, and those are then organized into Collections of related Albums, and Collections of related Collections--the hierarchy has occasionally reached 5 levels. (I like the hierarchical structure available in Flickr.)

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Jun 23, 2023 13:20:20   #
compilot Loc: ARIZONA
 
All.

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Jun 23, 2023 13:32:02   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
bdk wrote:
in school we were taught to throw out the pix of your feet , blank pix and really blurry ones. Then save EVERYTHING else. Storage space is cheap. cause some day you will want a pic of that iceberg with the yellow stain on the side. cant afford storage space. Get a facebook account and save everything there. Its free.


Storage space is cheap. Maintaining a bunch of mediocre shots is more trouble than it’s worth. If I’m out shooting and come home with 800 photos I cull pretty mercilessly. First pass I might still have 100-150 images, but that will include similar images and sequence bursts of action. Second pass I’ll look closer at the similar shots and pick the best and look at the action sequence for best instance or two. If it’s a bird in flight I might pick a couple of different wing positions and look for the best backgrounds among those. By the time I’m done I might have 20-50 images to edit. Occasionally I’ll keep one I might want to put work into later but usually end up deleting because I have new, better stuff to spend time working on.

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Jun 23, 2023 13:41:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
KerryF wrote:
So I recently went to Bueno Aires and Antarctica and I took a total of 6700 pictures. My first step to get to a managable number of pictures before I start editing, is to get rid of all of the bad/unuseable pictures (pictures of my feet, of the sky, trying something new that didn't work out, etc.). So that got it down to 6500 pictures. Then I start flagging the ones that I really liked and those that had potential but would need a lot of editing and that got the number down to 850. I then started editing the pictures as needed and there would be some that, for my level of editing with Lightroom, just didn't workout or pictures that were very similar to other pictures, and the bottom line is that I got the number down to 650 pictures that I uploaded to Shutterfly. Then my wife got involved to start putting them into a photo book and the final number of pictures that made it was 550 pictures.

So the actual question is, what number of pictures would you keep on your hard drive: all of them (6500), just the ones that you edited (850), or just the ones you uploaded?

We all have different levels of hoarding pictures that we have taken and I am curious what level you are. Up to this point, I have kept them all, but that is getting to be a lot of pictures (for me) and maybe it's time to do some house cleaning.
So I recently went to Bueno Aires and Antarctica a... (show quote)

I used to do that myself, taking thousands of images and keeping just a few hundred. At a certain point a few years back I began to ask myself why I was capturing 5,000 plus images and keeping only 400 to 500 of them. That started me thinking about what I was shooting and why I was even capturing those 4000 plus images that I would just end up deleting. Digital gives us the freedom to take as many images as we wish without having to really think too much about what we're shooting. On top of that, culling 90% to 95% of thousands of images can take a lot of time better spent elsewhere.

I don't do sports and wildlife, just static images. I now spend much more time and energy on each image I take. I concentrate much more on composition and light for each one. I am more selective choosing the subjects I shoot. My goal is to not just end up with the same old same old. When I travel these days I primarily use my Nikon Z fc retro designed body with manual focus prime lenses. By their nature this forces me to slow down and as a result I capture a much higher percentage of better thought out keepers. On a recent 10 day vacation, I captured less than 500 images and ultimately kept around 300. That's around a 60% keeper rate, compared to my previous 5% to 10% keeper rate. And as a result, I spent a fraction of the time culling images.

My approach certainly is not for everyone, and it may not be the most efficient way to shoot depending on what you shoot and your personal requirements and expectations, but it definitely works for me, and as an added benefit, I am now enjoying my photography much more than I have in years.

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Jun 23, 2023 13:50:08   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I used to do that myself, taking thousands of images and keeping just a few hundred. At a certain point a few years back I began to ask myself why I was capturing 5,000 plus images and keeping only 400 to 500 of them. That started me thinking about what I was shooting and why I was even capturing those 4000 plus images that I would just end up deleting. Digital gives us the freedom to take as many images as we wish without having to really think too much about what we're shooting. On top of that, culling 90% to 95% of thousands of images can take a lot of time better spent elsewhere.

I don't do sports and wildlife, just static images. I now spend much more time and energy on each image I take. I concentrate much more on composition and light for each one. I am more selective choosing the subjects I shoot. My goal is to not just end up with the same old same old. When I travel these days I primarily use my Nikon Z fc retro designed body with manual focus prime lenses. By their nature this forces me to slow down and as a result I capture a much higher percentage of better thought out keepers. On a recent 10 day vacation, I captured less than 500 images and ultimately kept around 300. That's around a 60% keeper rate, compared to my previous 5% to 10% keeper rate. And as a result, I spent a fraction of the time culling images.

My approach certainly is not for everyone, and it may not be the most efficient way to shoot depending on what you shoot and your personal requirements and expectations, but it definitely works for me, and as an added benefit, I am now enjoying my photography much more than I have in years.
I used to do that myself, taking thousands of imag... (show quote)

I never have actually taken very many - perhaps 200 / week when using film, a few more now.

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Jun 23, 2023 14:03:35   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
KerryF wrote:
So I recently went to Bueno Aires and Antarctica and I took a total of 6700 pictures. My first step to get to a managable number of pictures before I start editing, is to get rid of all of the bad/unuseable pictures (pictures of my feet, of the sky, trying something new that didn't work out, etc.). So that got it down to 6500 pictures. Then I start flagging the ones that I really liked and those that had potential but would need a lot of editing and that got the number down to 850. I then started editing the pictures as needed and there would be some that, for my level of editing with Lightroom, just didn't workout or pictures that were very similar to other pictures, and the bottom line is that I got the number down to 650 pictures that I uploaded to Shutterfly. Then my wife got involved to start putting them into a photo book and the final number of pictures that made it was 550 pictures.

So the actual question is, what number of pictures would you keep on your hard drive: all of them (6500), just the ones that you edited (850), or just the ones you uploaded?

We all have different levels of hoarding pictures that we have taken and I am curious what level you are. Up to this point, I have kept them all, but that is getting to be a lot of pictures (for me) and maybe it's time to do some house cleaning.
So I recently went to Bueno Aires and Antarctica a... (show quote)



I keep far too many and my problem is that sometimes I don't cull immediately after a trip and they accumulate fast. As the old saying goes "procrastination produces immediate results." As with Dirt Farmer, I keep everything on a separate drive, not necessarily on my computer hard drive.

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Jun 23, 2023 14:34:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JFCoupe wrote:
Truthfully, you can keep all the photos that you like, given the ability to store them rather inexpensively.

My approach is similar to some of the responses already. Typically on my first pass through a batch of photos is to rank images one star to five stars and I leave a few that have no rating.
I think create a one-star folder for the trip, i.e. 2023 Ireland_One Star and move the one star images to that folder.
Then I make a second pass through the remaining and refine my rating, so unrated images get a 3, 4 or five star rating. I will typically make a third and fourth pass through the images.
From there, I sort to just the five star images and will add a key word and create a smart collection of the images I decide to put in a slide show or use in a book.
Truthfully, you can keep all the photos that you l... (show quote)

I don't rank them, no need or desire to do so.
My vacation (trip) shots are either neat or memories.
<Similar> dupes I delete.

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