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Jun 9, 2023 16:14:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
“Haven’t used all it can do” I find a strange criterion. I’ve had many cameras that I never used all they can do. My current cameras have capabilities I’ll never use because I have no interest in those things. When I buy a new camera it’s because it can do things I want that my old equipment couldn’t do. I don’t care that my old camera does things that don’t matter to me.


If I don't need it, I don't use it.

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Jun 9, 2023 17:04:33   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
“Haven’t used all it can do” I find a strange criterion. I’ve had many cameras that I never used all they can do. My current cameras have capabilities I’ll never use because I have no interest in those things. When I buy a new camera it’s because it can do things I want that my old equipment couldn’t do. I don’t care that my old camera does things that don’t matter to me.


It seems to a polite attempt to suggest that folks don't know how to use their cameras. Don't think there is a real intent to expect use of every last function. There are several functions on my cameras that I have made a positive decision not to use. But I've learned exactly how and when to apply the functions that I do use.

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Jun 9, 2023 17:09:30   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
bart11 wrote:
I never refused to give info, it is your opinion. I said very clearly that since 2020 manufacturers do not produce cameras and I have a GAS for a new camera and surely not for 2015 models. And also I said, I do not care for anything else than to be not only completely new but also under $800. More specific I could not be.


Are you asking for something that you know is not available? You want a camera that is completely new which would be from 2023 and costs less than $800. Instead of setting up restrictive criteria that limits your choice of camera options, wouldn't it be better for you to consider the kind of photography you do and that you would like to do and choose the camera, at an affordable price, that would best help you achieve those goals rather than spending your money on a camera that doesn't meet your needs simply because its the latest on the market. While it is a given that cost matters to most of us, ideally we would like to use equipment that helps us produce the results we want with the least amount of complications. You, nor anyone else, are going to view your images and say " Wow these are some fine photographs and I can see why, they were made with a camera made in 2023"

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Jun 9, 2023 17:26:40   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I'm perfectly happy with my Canon rebel 77D and T7i.
Mirror and all.
Tamron 150-600 G2
Tamron 10-24
Canon pancake 24,40
Canon kit 18-135, 55-275

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Jun 9, 2023 17:38:33   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I love my articulating back view finder for using on my telescope which is 2000 mm mirror 8" lens

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Jun 9, 2023 17:50:39   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
B AND H has Canon rebel T8i with 18-55 kit lens for $899.
Near his price point and a good feature filled camera

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Jun 9, 2023 19:02:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
B AND H has Canon rebel T8i with 18-55 kit lens for $899.
Near his price point and a good feature filled camera



Maybe someday I'll upgrade from my T1i.

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Jun 10, 2023 01:19:11   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
B AND H has Canon rebel T8i with 18-55 kit lens for $899.
Near his price point and a good feature filled camera


He’s talking about getting a current camera at that price but you haven’t been able to get a new full frame camera for $800 for quite some time. There are current crop sensor cameras in that ballpark and M4/3.

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Jun 10, 2023 05:54:26   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
He’s talking about getting a current camera at that price but you haven’t been able to get a new full frame camera for $800 for quite some time. There are current crop sensor cameras in that ballpark and M4/3.


Why would he need a full frame size camera? Rebels are fine cameras with lots of features

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Jun 10, 2023 11:06:22   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Wallen wrote:
Generally speaking, knowing ones gear is knowing the tools' full capability, limitations and the skills/imagination to use them appropriately.

Buying a new gear, camera, lens etc. everytime a new one is advertised, may improve one's happiness and pride but do not improve the photographer, unless he/she knows that he is buying the solution to solve a shortcoming he/she has encountered and failed to solve with his old equipment.
Who knows, maybe the right purchase is a seminar of techniques?

Although it seems natural to seek the cumulative advise of the community when a one is going to face newgrounds, many fail to ask the right question about circumstances that may be present. Instead they only ask what gear to bring, because they have yet to know what each tool can achieve.

Choosing a gear to full fill what can be expected to happen, following the saying;"The right tool for the job" is more productive than bringing a gear (because of someone's recommendation which may be from a different experience) and expecting it to answer all challenges, which goes with;"If all you got is a hammer, everything is a nail".

One can only effectively choose, if they know their tools.

Having knowledge of possible circumstances, do not assure they will happen nor prevent other situations to unfold.
Even then, having the gear for those meant the best images possible for that expected moment.
And in knowing what those gear can and cannot do, then it is easier to choose a secondary/supplementary gear for other eventualities.

Cellphones' have now been really great for general documentation and would readily fill the spot of secondary/supplementary gear. Some may even choose them as their main gear for the matter.

The main gist is knowing what one wants, what one expects and what one can do to get the desired result.

It's a big world to explore; may you have the best light, beautiful moments & happy smiles!
Generally speaking, knowing ones gear is knowing t... (show quote)


Hey Wallen;
very good post. Only 5 pages so far ?
I have and may still and probably will post my thoughts about what I have and why.
Yupper, I like to see the slobbering and drooling about every new camera that comes out. Of course I am one who knows if I had the latest and greatest multi thousand dollar gear my images would not be better but 'maybe' a bit sharper and such just because of the new technology but that still does not make ME a more knowledgeable and skilled shooter.
Good post guy.
Bruce.

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Jun 10, 2023 11:32:13   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
With any new equipment and all the new bells a n d whistles you may or not want to explore them right away, but they are there to use.
I know most of you have microwave ovens an what percent of those features do you actually use? I bet not many

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Jun 10, 2023 13:40:45   #
anhmydo1941 Loc: Texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
'New' is mostly irrelevant, in terms of digital cameras. Granted, you won't have warranty support. Nor, the latest brag rights on UHH. And, the older the model, the less likely of a repair option. But, modern cameras, say anything from 2015 onward, are luxury goods. Few 'need' can interchangeable lens camera. Lower-end models compete with $1000 phones, so who needs a $1000 camera-phone and another $800 camera-camera? As luxury goods, this equipment is built for the long-haul, where 'used' is typically indistinguishable from new in the equipment's long-term useful-life-expectancy.

Since you refused to provide the requested details to give focused answers, consider the Canon Powershot models, that are all 'new', 'digital' and 'sub $800'. I shoot with an older Canon G9X-II, a 20MP model, where Canon and Sony have standardized on this pixel resolution and cropped sensor for their multiple models in this pocket-sized model. Sony's version are 'Cybershot'.

For interchangeable lens cameras, you just have to consider your options. A widely popular model like the Canon EOS 5DIII now has a glut of used models in the resale market. They're appearing lightly used in the $600 range, for a 22MP full-frame camera with many of the features of Canon's top 1DX-II model from the same 2012 time period. Any 20MP to 24MP model is much the same as another, whether new or 10+ years old. Worrying about 'new' is your own self-limiting decision, and worrying about sub $1000 is unrealistic for 2023 -- probably forever more.
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I went through several brands ,from Rolleiflex, Leica to Nikon and Canon. To me the most important factor in photography is the clarity, the sharpness and the tone of your pictures, then we consider the variable functions of your camera.
The new digital generation invites us to reconsider both the lenses and the bodies but again the result still is the success of your pictures.I do not mention about the post photo shopping
Knowing your gear would help a lot in your performance. Asking yourself which are your intentions to shoot and you will deduct from your answer what you need. Frequent research and study will guide you to pick the gear you like then keep working on it will help you to get better pictures.
I know a friend who purchased anything new on the market, which resulted in a multiple gear but his pictures were not improved with his news tools !
MAD

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Jun 10, 2023 14:17:15   #
User ID
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yea, I don't uses everything my camera can do,
and DEFINITELY not everything my editors can do.
I don't need to use stuff simply because it exists.

AMEN !!!

Verrrrry tired of reading about "Im not updating cuz I havent exhausted all the possibilities of my DXX00D MkII".

The most obvious negatives in that are:

• Its camera oriented, as if growth is all about 100% full mastery of every aspect of your toy.

• Every camera is loaded with more options than any particular user needs. IOW some aspects of your camera were designed for someone other than you.

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Lately acquired a camera mostly for two features: hand held high rez and 75fps. The rest of the camera, about 75%, is a flagship video producers camera which I will never use and do not feel moved to "master" or even to play around with.

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Jun 10, 2023 14:35:29   #
User ID
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
With any new equipment and all the new bells a n d whistles you may or not want to explore them right away, but they are there to use.
I know most of you have microwave ovens an what percent of those features do you actually use? I bet not many

Exactly !!!

Not EVERY bell or whistle is meant to be useful for every user. Its packaging. You are NOT paying for the stuff you never use. It would actually cost you more to insist on leaving stuff out !

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Jun 10, 2023 14:59:32   #
Bill McKenna
 
One of the best posts I’ve seen on UHH. I have no intention of going mirrorless, in spite of the positive comments I often read. I have a Nikon D850, a D6 and a D500. I love them all for different reasons, and when I look at my best work, I can’t imagine getting better images with a mirrorless. I have rented the Nikon Z6ii when shooting indoor theater, where quietness is important. (I liked the results, but no more than my D850 or D6.) So unless I’m somehow convinced of the significant step-up with new gear, I’m right where I want to be.

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