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A Tribute to the Australian Soldiers Who Fought and Died at Gallipoli in 1915
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Jun 6, 2023 10:41:46   #
pendennis
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Probably the biggest blunder of WW I.


Absolutely. Churchill at his egotistical worst.

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Jun 6, 2023 10:44:20   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Unbelievably beautiful!

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Jun 6, 2023 14:13:26   #
LittleRed
 
Sadly, hardly what one would call a tribute. Just listen to the words. This was written as a anti-war ballad by Eric in 1972. According to Bogle it was ostensibly about Gallipoli but was in fact intended as a “veiled attack on Australian participation in the Vietnam War (which he strongly opposed)” I don’t think Bogle ever meant it to be considered/known as a tribute song, but rather a warning as to the consequences of war.

LittleRed (Ron)

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Jun 6, 2023 15:25:11   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
alawry wrote:
I'm in New Zealand. My dad and his best friend went to north Africa, Libya and Italy and had a much easier time than many. I've a photo somewhere my aunty took off then coming off the troopship when they arrived home. I can't believe how thin they were, not like photos I've seen of Japanese pow etc but barely recognizable. They married sisters they had met before the war so his best mate became my uncle. Sometimes I feel guilty for the easy life I've had thanks to them and others who've done those yards.
I'm in New Zealand. My dad and his best friend wen... (show quote)


Glad they came home, so many didn't

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Jun 6, 2023 15:29:06   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
😢😢

A lot different than what we learned in Jr.High music class, and much more moving!!



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Jun 6, 2023 15:30:39   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
bw79st wrote:
My only known blood relative to have died in World War 1 was William Kennedy of Dumbartonshire, Scotland, who was shot by a Turkish sniper while preparing his tea on the beach at Gallipoli. That's the story that has been passed down in the family. William was an older cousin to my mother.


May rest in peace in the arms of the Lord

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Jun 6, 2023 15:31:45   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
joehel2 wrote:
Wow, that was one deeply moving performance. Thanks for posting it.


Thanks for looking and commenting

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Jun 6, 2023 15:32:28   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Jack47 wrote:
I have a nephew who plays guitar. He can make you cry when he sings this.


I can believe it.

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Jun 6, 2023 15:32:50   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
canonuser25 wrote:
Great song but l prefer the Pogues version


To each his own

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Jun 6, 2023 15:34:40   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
pendennis wrote:
Absolutely. Churchill at his egotistical worst.


Strategically Churchill, tactically the generals

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Jun 6, 2023 15:35:31   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Rich2236 wrote:
Unbelievably beautiful!


Thanks

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Jun 6, 2023 15:43:20   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
LittleRed wrote:
Sadly, hardly what one would call a tribute. Just listen to the words. This was written as a anti-war ballad by Eric in 1972. According to Bogle it was ostensibly about Gallipoli but was in fact intended as a “veiled attack on Australian participation in the Vietnam War (which he strongly opposed)” I don’t think Bogle ever meant it to be considered/known as a tribute song, but rather a warning as to the consequences of war.

LittleRed (Ron)


The words "tribute" and "protest" are not mutually exclusive and trying to put one's self into the mind of another can be a dangerous exercise. It is entirely possible to write a tribute song with a message. Can we say it's a moving song regardless the motives of the writer?

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Jun 6, 2023 20:51:30   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
I'd say that The Pogues did a far more emotional and thematic job of rendering this song. I don't mean to create controversy and everyone is welcome to their own tastes, likes and dislikes but the Pogues' version and its attention grabbing photos is truly heartbreaking and attention worthy.

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Jun 7, 2023 01:58:59   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
fantom wrote:
I'd say that The Pogues did a far more emotional and thematic job of rendering this song. I don't mean to create controversy and everyone is welcome to their own tastes, likes and dislikes but the Pogues' version and its attention grabbing photos is truly heartbreaking and attention worthy.


No controversy we all have different tastes

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Jun 7, 2023 02:44:12   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
No controversy we all have different tastes


That's a nice statement. I'll have to track down the version by pogues and the link you gave us..I am familiar with Tom Waited version, his style is suited to the song and another artist, Joan Baez I think but likely wrong. When I've got time I get onto it. Your post has motivated me to a listening session and that's what uhh is for: to motivate us. Cheers.

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