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Jun 4, 2023 17:09:42   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
BebuLamar wrote:
This is what I am thinking of. Of course I have to... (show quote)


These air cooled units can not sustain long term usage over extended periods but a 20k might do better
I have to consider the power needed in the winter because my home is total electric except for the kitchen range.
My furnace uses14.7 kw and the water heater will be 5300 watts if I ever get one it will probably be LPG fueled due to storage problems of gasoline or diesel.

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Jun 4, 2023 17:31:38   #
Dave H2
 
tramsey wrote:
I'm glad you are able to afford something like that. That's beyond me, three thousand for the generator and another three to hook it up and then I use it once every five years. I've been in South Texas for over twenty years and the power has only gone out four or five times that I can remember. My neighbor a few houses away has one, his wife has medical problems and needs electricity 24/7. He says every once in a while he drips the main fuse just to get it going and show off. But he needs it. I want one but don't need one - big difference.
I'm glad you are able to afford something like tha... (show quote)


You can buy a 5500 watt pull start portable generator for $450-550. It will run most of your essentials including furnace , fridge, water pump (I'm on a well) and some lights and TV. You can plug it into your electric dryer power outlet and load shed unrequired circuits by shutting off their breakers.

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Jun 4, 2023 18:07:59   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Dave H2 wrote:
You can buy a 5500 watt pull start portable generator for $450-550. It will run most of your essentials including furnace , fridge, water pump (I'm on a well) and some lights and TV. You can plug it into your electric dryer power outlet and load shed unrequired circuits by shutting off their breakers.


Your method of connecting to your could kill a lineman unless you disconnect from the grid.
and 5500watts will not run a whole house furnace !! most draw 14.5kw and up

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Jun 4, 2023 18:20:31   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Your method of connecting to your could kill a lineman unless you disconnect from the grid.
and 5500watts will not run a whole house furnace !! most draw 14.5kw and up


Depends on the type furnace. On a gas (or oil furnace). You just need to run the fan motor and the control board.

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Jun 4, 2023 18:23:57   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
We just installed Solar - of course it doesn't work when the grid goes down, so we also installed a 22 kW Generac feeding off our 1000 gal propane tank (at full load it eats about 3 gal / hr), and whole house surge suppression. I have 3 x 1300w cyberpower UPS (these bought over 10 years as I added stuff - replaced batteries in each a couple of times - for the main computer, back-up computer, and 12 TB NAS) and 2 600w APC (router/VOIP, and laptops). Before we had the Generac - our house sounded like an atom bomb on 30 second countdown with all the UPS beeping. THAT won't be a problem any more

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Jun 4, 2023 19:15:27   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
We just installed Solar - of course it doesn't work when the grid goes down, so we also installed a 22 kW Generac feeding off our 1000 gal propane tank (at full load it eats about 3 gal / hr), and whole house surge suppression. I have 3 x 1300w cyberpower UPS (these bought over 10 years as I added stuff - replaced batteries in each a couple of times - for the main computer, back-up computer, and 12 TB NAS) and 2 600w APC (router/VOIP, and laptops). Before we had the Generac - our house sounded like an atom bomb on 30 second countdown with all the UPS beeping. THAT won't be a problem any more
We just installed Solar - of course it doesn't wor... (show quote)


Why does the solar not work when the grid goes down?

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Jun 5, 2023 01:33:07   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
TriX wrote:
Why does the solar not work when the grid goes down?
The current breed of solar panels and microconverters will only work IF you have installed Battery Backup that can supply the total max household load. The current battery systems (LiFePO4) run about $15K per 10 kW (my house would need 2) - they only last 10 years (IF you are lucky - not counting capacity loss with time), and don't like to be exposed to the hot sun. I have NO idea why the Solar microconverters can't synch with a standby generator - and my solar company couldn't really explain it either - but there you are. So - IF the grid goes down - my house runs on the 22 kW Generac - and the solar panels twiddle their microcrystalline thumbs.

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Jun 5, 2023 05:11:00   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
TriX wrote:
Depends on the type furnace. On a gas (or oil furnace). You just need to run the fan motor and the control board.


I stated electric Furnace

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Jun 5, 2023 07:21:33   #
kerry12 Loc: Harrisburg, Pa.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Fortunately, the only gas in this house is from eating beans.


LOL

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Jun 5, 2023 10:16:08   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I stated electric Furnace


I know you did for your furnace - I was responding to your next post that said “Most will draw…”. Sorry for any confusion.

Cheers

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Jun 5, 2023 13:45:30   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
TriX wrote:
I know you did for your furnace - I was responding to your next post that said “Most will draw…”. Sorry for any confusion.

Cheers



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