When Democrats control the government.
May 31, 2023 12:23:35 #
May 31, 2023 13:56:04 #
travelwp wrote:
When Democrats control the government.
New York and California lost a combined $92 billion in income as rich Americans escaped to other states, because of high taxes and crime.
New York and California lost a combined $92 billion in income as rich Americans escaped to other states, because of high taxes and crime.
Did you know that St. Louis Mo. with a Republican Governor, is one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the world ...
May 31, 2023 14:01:49 #
travelwp wrote:
The subject is the Democrat government and conservatives have no role in raising taxes, crime and poop on the streets.
Actually they do .... they lower taxes which means that local governments can not provide the services necessary to maintain an effective social safety net .... that is, throughout history, how revolutions start and autocracy begins ...
May 31, 2023 14:47:38 #
DEBJENROB wrote:
Did you know that St. Louis Mo. with a Republican Governor, is one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the world ...
I think you left out something very relevant. Can you guess what it is?
May 31, 2023 15:14:51 #
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
I think you left out something very relevant. Can you guess what it is?
the ultimate responsibility lies with the Governor .... not the Mayor ...
May 31, 2023 16:03:46 #
DEBJENROB wrote:
the ultimate responsibility lies with the Governor .... not the Mayor ...
Sure whatever you say. In reality, governors have very little control over mayors. They set their own policies and budgets. Mayors are elected locally, not statewide, so they serve at the behest of their voters. No governor that I know of can just fire a mayor unless convicted of a crime.
May 31, 2023 16:34:41 #
travelwp wrote:
When Democrats control the government.
New York and California lost a combined $92 billion in income as rich Americans escaped to other states, because of high taxes and crime.
New York and California lost a combined $92 billion in income as rich Americans escaped to other states, because of high taxes and crime.
Source please! Knowing you I strongly suspect You’re equating pandemic years income .
May 31, 2023 16:36:41 #
DEBJENROB wrote:
Actually they do .... they lower taxes which means that local governments can not provide the services necessary to maintain an effective social safety net .... that is, throughout history, how revolutions start and autocracy begins ...
No not every state operates like New Jersey where local communities depend on state largess. Wrong as usual
May 31, 2023 17:27:36 #
Wyantry
Loc: SW Colorado
SUBJECT: When Democrats control the government.
”. . . I also find the the states that are pushing for highly restrictive abortion rules have the worst record for infant and maternal mortality - here they are by red or blue states.
Here are the 10 states with the highest infant mortality:
1. Mississippi - 8.1 per 1,000 Red
2. Louisiana - 7.6 per 1,000 Red
3. Arkansas - 7.4 per 1,000 Red
4. West Virginia - per 1,000 Red
5. South Dakota - 7.3 per 1,000 Red
6. Alabama - 7.0 per 1,000 Red
7. Michigan - 6.8 per 1,000 Blue
8. North Carolina - 6.8 per 1,000 Red
9. Indiana - 6.8 per 1,000 Red
10. Ohio - 6.7 per 1,000 Sometimes Red
Here are the 10 states with the highest maternal mortality:
1. Louisiana - 58.1 per 100k Red
2. Georgia - 48.4 per 100k Red
3. Indiana - 43.6 per 100k Red
4. New Jersey - 38.1 per 100k Blue
5. Arkansas - 37.5 per 100k Red
6. Alabama - 36.4 per 100k Red
7. Missouri - 34.6 per 100k Red
8. Texas - 34.5 per 100k Red
9. South Carolina - 27.9 per 100k Red
10. Arizona - 27.3 per 100k Sometimes Red
It seems it is ok to restrict abortions, but these states are often the worse for care of mothers and children.
Both parties have dirty hands if you look hard enough. It may be why the number of Independents grows every year.”
That assertion is not absolute — some democrat-controlled states have a distinctly elevated infant death rate (IDR).
In the World:
“The under-five mortality rate (U5MR) is the number of deaths of infants and children under five years old per 1000 live births. The under-five mortality rate for the world is 39 deaths according to the World Bank and the World Health Organization (WHO).”
[ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates ]
With an infant death rate of 6.3 per 1000 live births (~2018 data); Of 193 world countries:
The United States ranks number 49 among the LOWEST infant death rate (IDR). So the U.S. is number 49 out of 193 countries. Only 48 countries have a lower IDR!
Put another way: the United States ranks number 145 down the list of 193 countries for the HIGHEST infant death rate.
As of 2023, the U.S. IDR had declined to 5.48 (see next reference).
~~~~~
In the United States:
”The infant mortality rate for U.S. in 2022 was 5.547 deaths per 1000 live births, a 1.19% decline from 2021. The infant mortality rate for U.S. in 2021 was 5.614 deaths per 1000 live births, a 1.18% decline from 2020.”
[ https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/infant-mortality-rate# ]
Listed by LOWEST infant death rate (IDR):
1 Massachusetts ……….3.7
2 Washington …………….3.9
3 New Hampshire ……..4.2
3 California …………………4.2
5 North Dakota …………..4.3
6 Connecticut ……………..4.5
6 New Jersey ……………….4.5
6 Colorado …………………..4.5
9 Wyoming …………………..4.6
9 Idaho …………………………4.6
9 New York …………………..4.6
12 Minnesota ………………….4.8
12 Vermont …………………….4.8
14 Hawaii ……………………….5.3
14 Iowa ………………………….5.3
16 Montana ……………………5.4
16 Oregon ……………………..5.4
18 Alaska ……………………….5.6
18 Nebraska …………………..5.6
20 Arizona ………………………5.7
20 Maine …………………………5.7
22 Nevada ………………………5.8
— United States
Listed by HIGHEST IDR:
52(*) Mississippi ………………….9.6
51 Arkansas …………………….8.2
49 Oklahoma ………………….7.7
49 South Dakota …………….7.7
46 Alabama …………………….7.4
46 Tennessee ………………….7.4
46 U.S. Virgin Islands[2]…7.4
45 Indiana ……………………….7.3
44 Georgia ……………………….7.2
44 Ohio …………………………….7.2
42 Louisiana …………………….7.1
42 North Carolina …………….7.1
41 West Virginia ………………7.0
40 Michigan ……………………..6.8
39 District of Columbia ……6.7
38 Delaware …………………….6.6
36 Kentucky …………………….6.5
36 South Carolina …………..6.5
34 Maryland …………………….6.4
34 Wisconsin ……………………6.4
32 Missouri ………………………6.2
32 Rhode Island ……………..6.2
28 Florida ………………………..6.1
28 Illinois …………………………6.1
28 Kansas ………………………..6.1
28 Pennsylvania ………………6.1
27 Puerto Rico[2] ……………6.0
23 New Mexico ……………….5.9
24 Texas ………………………….5.9
25 Utah ……………………………5.9
(*) listing included some U.S. Territories, hence numbers >50
There is an accompanying graphic that depicts (maps) the IDR for the U.S.. This shows a concentration in the mid to deep southern states.
”. . . I also find the the states that are pushing for highly restrictive abortion rules have the worst record for infant and maternal mortality - here they are by red or blue states.
Here are the 10 states with the highest infant mortality:
1. Mississippi - 8.1 per 1,000 Red
2. Louisiana - 7.6 per 1,000 Red
3. Arkansas - 7.4 per 1,000 Red
4. West Virginia - per 1,000 Red
5. South Dakota - 7.3 per 1,000 Red
6. Alabama - 7.0 per 1,000 Red
7. Michigan - 6.8 per 1,000 Blue
8. North Carolina - 6.8 per 1,000 Red
9. Indiana - 6.8 per 1,000 Red
10. Ohio - 6.7 per 1,000 Sometimes Red
Here are the 10 states with the highest maternal mortality:
1. Louisiana - 58.1 per 100k Red
2. Georgia - 48.4 per 100k Red
3. Indiana - 43.6 per 100k Red
4. New Jersey - 38.1 per 100k Blue
5. Arkansas - 37.5 per 100k Red
6. Alabama - 36.4 per 100k Red
7. Missouri - 34.6 per 100k Red
8. Texas - 34.5 per 100k Red
9. South Carolina - 27.9 per 100k Red
10. Arizona - 27.3 per 100k Sometimes Red
It seems it is ok to restrict abortions, but these states are often the worse for care of mothers and children.
Both parties have dirty hands if you look hard enough. It may be why the number of Independents grows every year.”
That assertion is not absolute — some democrat-controlled states have a distinctly elevated infant death rate (IDR).
In the World:
“The under-five mortality rate (U5MR) is the number of deaths of infants and children under five years old per 1000 live births. The under-five mortality rate for the world is 39 deaths according to the World Bank and the World Health Organization (WHO).”
[ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates ]
With an infant death rate of 6.3 per 1000 live births (~2018 data); Of 193 world countries:
The United States ranks number 49 among the LOWEST infant death rate (IDR). So the U.S. is number 49 out of 193 countries. Only 48 countries have a lower IDR!
Put another way: the United States ranks number 145 down the list of 193 countries for the HIGHEST infant death rate.
As of 2023, the U.S. IDR had declined to 5.48 (see next reference).
~~~~~
In the United States:
”The infant mortality rate for U.S. in 2022 was 5.547 deaths per 1000 live births, a 1.19% decline from 2021. The infant mortality rate for U.S. in 2021 was 5.614 deaths per 1000 live births, a 1.18% decline from 2020.”
[ https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/infant-mortality-rate# ]
Listed by LOWEST infant death rate (IDR):
1 Massachusetts ……….3.7
2 Washington …………….3.9
3 New Hampshire ……..4.2
3 California …………………4.2
5 North Dakota …………..4.3
6 Connecticut ……………..4.5
6 New Jersey ……………….4.5
6 Colorado …………………..4.5
9 Wyoming …………………..4.6
9 Idaho …………………………4.6
9 New York …………………..4.6
12 Minnesota ………………….4.8
12 Vermont …………………….4.8
14 Hawaii ……………………….5.3
14 Iowa ………………………….5.3
16 Montana ……………………5.4
16 Oregon ……………………..5.4
18 Alaska ……………………….5.6
18 Nebraska …………………..5.6
20 Arizona ………………………5.7
20 Maine …………………………5.7
22 Nevada ………………………5.8
— United States
Listed by HIGHEST IDR:
52(*) Mississippi ………………….9.6
51 Arkansas …………………….8.2
49 Oklahoma ………………….7.7
49 South Dakota …………….7.7
46 Alabama …………………….7.4
46 Tennessee ………………….7.4
46 U.S. Virgin Islands[2]…7.4
45 Indiana ……………………….7.3
44 Georgia ……………………….7.2
44 Ohio …………………………….7.2
42 Louisiana …………………….7.1
42 North Carolina …………….7.1
41 West Virginia ………………7.0
40 Michigan ……………………..6.8
39 District of Columbia ……6.7
38 Delaware …………………….6.6
36 Kentucky …………………….6.5
36 South Carolina …………..6.5
34 Maryland …………………….6.4
34 Wisconsin ……………………6.4
32 Missouri ………………………6.2
32 Rhode Island ……………..6.2
28 Florida ………………………..6.1
28 Illinois …………………………6.1
28 Kansas ………………………..6.1
28 Pennsylvania ………………6.1
27 Puerto Rico[2] ……………6.0
23 New Mexico ……………….5.9
24 Texas ………………………….5.9
25 Utah ……………………………5.9
(*) listing included some U.S. Territories, hence numbers >50
There is an accompanying graphic that depicts (maps) the IDR for the U.S.. This shows a concentration in the mid to deep southern states.
May 31, 2023 17:52:14 #
Wyantry
Loc: SW Colorado
dennis2146 wrote:
I completely agree that both parties have their ly... (show quote)
I do not think he CAN draw a direct correlation.
What would be a more interesting would be an investigation of the crime rate decrease caused by abortion of offspring due to cases of rape, incest and other sexual abuse.
A quick view of national crime statistics data appears to indicate a decrease in sex-related crimes as more states approved abortions for cases of rape and incest.
If an offenders’ progeny are aborted, the genetic makeup that promotes sexual violence will be curtailed.
In support of this hypothesis:
A greater number of abortions (%) of sex/violence offenders causes a lesser number of offending individuals (%) in future generations
A PREDICTION is: there are fewer cases of rape, incest and sexual crimes in subsequent generations. (With a high correlation coefficient).
(I do not have the data to prove this hypothesis: I am continuing to investigate. So no links or data as yet.)
May 31, 2023 18:10:34 #
lenben wrote:
And SF has a lower crime rate than any city in the South with a population of more than 100,000.
Show your facts. Here's one for you about S.F.
https://www.homesnacks.com/ca/san-francisco-crime/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20most%20recent%20data%20from%20the,total%20crime%20rate%20of%202%2C581.0%20per%20100%2C000%20people.
May 31, 2023 20:07:51 #
DennyT wrote:
Source please! Knowing you I strongly suspect You’re equating pandemic years income .
Did you Know that MacDonald is considering leaving Ca.
https://original.newsbreak.com/@ani-reports-1675393/2992583995494-mcdonald-s-president-warns-of-possible-closure-of-over-1000-california-locations
May 31, 2023 22:47:42 #
Effate
Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
[quote=rwoodvira]
You do realize, save for St Louis which you pointed out, every state you listed as red states have the most dangerous (democrat run) cities in the country driving those statistics.
travelwp wrote:
When Democrats control the government. br br I th... (show quote)
You do realize, save for St Louis which you pointed out, every state you listed as red states have the most dangerous (democrat run) cities in the country driving those statistics.
Jun 1, 2023 00:10:47 #
DennyT wrote:
Source please!
I never provide sources. I'm always hoping the reader will look things up and learn more about it on their own.
If you don't believe the information, fine, just move on, no need to spend time replying.
Jun 1, 2023 00:21:29 #
DEBJENROB wrote:
Did you know that St. Louis Mo. with a Republican Governor, is one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the world ...
St. Louis MO is Very liberal, 81.9% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election.
Democrat voters also elected politicians that made St. Lois Mo one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the world.
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