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May 29, 2023 12:03:24   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Longshadow wrote:
And advantages and disadvantages as well.


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May 29, 2023 14:03:52   #
radiojohn
 
All photographic device designs influence how you work with images.

The person with a 120 TLR is affected by how they see images. A rangefinder user with an optical finder sees the world differently than somebody with dim old Spotmatic pentaprism. The big, bright screen of the film OM-1 was totally different from the Spotmatics, etc.

With my consumer-priced digital bridge cameras I could frame the shot with the EVF, but not really see details. The newer mirrorless EVF finders change that.

What personally horrifies me are cameras at any price range that ONLY use the back screen for all viewing. Some even include touch screen controls, equally hard to see in bright light. If this is what you grew up with, you think that is all there is. There are even consumer grade bridge cameras with superzoom and only a back screen. They MUST influence how and what you shoot.

The newest screens that show in real time the effects, focus peaking, blown out highlights, etc. also affect shooting for better or worse.

IMHO

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May 29, 2023 14:46:58   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Maybe the "sad" and "lazy" folks just need an attitude readjustment? Whine, or challenge yourself with new or old equipment. Your choice.


Or accept using an iPhone and embracing the positives!

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May 29, 2023 14:54:18   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
radiojohn wrote:
All photographic device designs influence how you work with images.

The person with a 120 TLR is affected by how they see images. A rangefinder user with an optical finder sees the world differently than somebody with dim old Spotmatic pentaprism. The big, bright screen of the film OM-1 was totally different from the Spotmatics,

I have a Spotmatic, and it does not appear any dimmer than any other camera’s OVF does. Now, the sight thru a M42 lens does to tend to dim at narrower apertures, unless it is “auto”.

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May 29, 2023 16:49:28   #
radiojohn
 
I recall, back in the 70's, looking through the OM-1 and being shocked at how much brighter it was. Soon, others scrambled to catch up.

It did help to have a fast lens. Those early f/4.5 zooms were tough and some split mage rangefinder screens stopped working, some at 4.5 and all at 5.6.

The mirror-prism could have aged on mine. Maybe you got lucky.

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May 29, 2023 16:56:06   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
suntouched wrote:
Or accept using an iPhone and embracing the positives!
Exactly

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May 29, 2023 17:19:56   #
radiojohn
 
This discussion begs a few more considerations.

[With the exception of this learned group :)]

How many people buy a camera for a specific style of photography versus how many peoples' style of photography is shaped by the camera they buy?

My experience behind the counter and in classes is that few buyers understand the capabilities and limitations of what camera they buy.

Many Americans, since almost birth, are bombarded with products of ALL kinds offering a quick, easy solution to whatever they need. The meterless, fixed focus easy-load 126 Instamatic dwarfed all other camera sales for decades. How did this effect the kinds of photos slowly turning magenta in countless shoeboxes?

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May 29, 2023 17:50:43   #
radiojohn
 
Question: Had it been a bright, sunny day with something like a nice "sun dog" in the sky and you had to go outside to shoot it, what would you have used?

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May 29, 2023 17:51:18   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
gvarner wrote:
…… Since I got a decent iPhone I’m using my DSLR less and less….


Here are two challenges. 1st, commit yourself to just using your Camera for photography.
2nd, create a phone photography book featuring individual techniques specific to each model of phone type.

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May 29, 2023 18:48:24   #
User ID
 
radiojohn wrote:
All photographic device designs influence how you work with images.

The person with a 120 TLR is affected by how they see images. A rangefinder user with an optical finder sees the world differently than somebody with dim old Spotmatic pentaprism. The big, bright screen of the film OM-1 was totally different from the Spotmatics, etc.

With my consumer-priced digital bridge cameras I could frame the shot with the EVF, but not really see details. The newer mirrorless EVF finders change that.

What personally horrifies me are cameras at any price range that ONLY use the back screen for all viewing. Some even include touch screen controls, equally hard to see in bright light. If this is what you grew up with, you think that is all there is. There are even consumer grade bridge cameras with superzoom and only a back screen. They MUST influence how and what you shoot.

The newest screens that show in real time the effects, focus peaking, blown out highlights, etc. also affect shooting for better or worse.

IMHO
All photographic device designs influence how you ... (show quote)

The idea that how the vf presents the world has any effect on the users "creative eye" would be quite true of users who tend to not pre visualize.

While I have verrrrry strong preferences about type of vf, I never unbag my camera until AFTER Ive already seen my intended result thru my eyes and in my head.

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May 29, 2023 18:52:01   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Without the best equipment, we're only as good as everyone with a phone.

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May 29, 2023 22:22:40   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Without the best equipment, we're only as good as everyone with a phone.

Not all true, since composition is important, and some of those with a phone are uninterested in composition.

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May 29, 2023 22:25:24   #
SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A photographer brings their camera.



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May 29, 2023 22:46:24   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
suntouched wrote:
Or accept using an iPhone and embracing the positives!


Check the names... Prob. same folks that did not like digital.

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May 29, 2023 23:22:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you leave your camera at home, you're not a photographer.

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