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Dec 11, 2012 22:27:23   #
Audie Thornburg Loc: Eureka, Kansas
 
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING THE POINT!!! The Point IS that GOD made us "Boys" and "Girls" to grow up to become "Men" and "Women", able to make our own choices, and the choices that we make will determine, and are determining, our future. The Nation as a whole is now suffering and will suffer greater things than these based on our choices. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, and he has NO Tolerance for such acts. Open your eyes folks, God is not going to turn his head the other way and say "OH WELL!!??. He Gave Extremely Harsh Punishments to the people of the Old Testament, and we will be be held accountable for our actions as well, and I'm not talking just about those who choose to participate in sexual sins but also those who turn their heads the other way and say "I think that they should have the same rights as heterosexuals". God said in "The Bible" that it is an ABOMINATION to him. That means that is Detestable, Vulgar, Obscene, Unclean, and Unacceptable!!!! We as a Nation are sliding into Debauchery with our permissive attitudes and Antics. Wake Up People!! If you want this Country to turn around and become something that we can ALL live with, then WE need to turn around and look to God for guidance, and start Serving Him and not ourselves or a political party association. You all seem to be very Intellectual people, which means that you probably read a lot and study a lot. My advice to you would be to start studying "The Bible" and getting your hearts and minds right with GOD. Before it's too late to save this great country that we All call Home.

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Dec 11, 2012 22:35:35   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Audie Thornburg wrote:
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING THE POINT!!! The Point IS that GOD made us "Boys" and "Girls" to grow up to become "Men" and "Women", able to make our own choices, and the choices that we make will determine, and are determining, our future. The Nation as a whole is now suffering and will suffer greater things than these based on our choices. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, and he has NO Tolerance for such acts. Open your eyes folks, God is not going to turn his head the other way and say "OH WELL!!??. He Gave Extremely Harsh Punishments to the people of the Old Testament, and we will be be held accountable for our actions as well, and I'm not talking just about those who choose to participate in sexual sins but also those who turn their heads the other way and say "I think that they should have the same rights as heterosexuals". God said in "The Bible" that it is an ABOMINATION to him. That means that is Detestable, Vulgar, Obscene, Unclean, and Unacceptable!!!! We as a Nation are sliding into Debauchery with our permissive attitudes and Antics. Wake Up People!! If you want this Country to turn around and become something that we can ALL live with, then WE need to turn around and look to God for guidance, and start Serving Him and not ourselves or a political party association. You all seem to be very Intellectual people, which means that you probably read a lot and study a lot. My advice to you would be to start studying "The Bible" and getting your hearts and minds right with GOD. Before it's too late to save this great country that we All call Home.
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING ... (show quote)


Audie Thornburg, I know your heart is in the right place but you shoul not cast Pearls before Swines.

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Dec 11, 2012 22:38:34   #
architect Loc: Chattanooga
 
Audie Thornburg wrote:
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING THE POINT!!! The Point IS that GOD made us "Boys" and "Girls" to grow up to become "Men" and "Women", able to make our own choices, and the choices that we make will determine, and are determining, our future. The Nation as a whole is now suffering and will suffer greater things than these based on our choices. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, and he has NO Tolerance for such acts. Open your eyes folks, God is not going to turn his head the other way and say "OH WELL!!??. He Gave Extremely Harsh Punishments to the people of the Old Testament, and we will be be held accountable for our actions as well, and I'm not talking just about those who choose to participate in sexual sins but also those who turn their heads the other way and say "I think that they should have the same rights as heterosexuals". God said in "The Bible" that it is an ABOMINATION to him. That means that is Detestable, Vulgar, Obscene, Unclean, and Unacceptable!!!! We as a Nation are sliding into Debauchery with our permissive attitudes and Antics. Wake Up People!! If you want this Country to turn around and become something that we can ALL live with, then WE need to turn around and look to God for guidance, and start Serving Him and not ourselves or a political party association. You all seem to be very Intellectual people, which means that you probably read a lot and study a lot. My advice to you would be to start studying "The Bible" and getting your hearts and minds right with GOD. Before it's too late to save this great country that we All call Home.
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING ... (show quote)


I am so glad that our constitution gave us Freedom of and FROM religion. I do read a lot and study a lot and have for over 60 years. Religious bigotry is the curse of the world today, from Christian divides like Ireland and England, to the divisions between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, not to mentions Judaism from Muslims. MY God is inclusive of everyone, and my God is in my own vision, not defined by ancient books written by people who thought the world was flat.

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Dec 11, 2012 22:40:49   #
architect Loc: Chattanooga
 
And what the hell does your opinion about Boys and Girls have to do with the GOP?

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Dec 11, 2012 22:49:36   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
architect wrote:
Audie Thornburg wrote:
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING THE POINT!!! The Point IS that GOD made us "Boys" and "Girls" to grow up to become "Men" and "Women", able to make our own choices, and the choices that we make will determine, and are determining, our future. The Nation as a whole is now suffering and will suffer greater things than these based on our choices. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, and he has NO Tolerance for such acts. Open your eyes folks, God is not going to turn his head the other way and say "OH WELL!!??. He Gave Extremely Harsh Punishments to the people of the Old Testament, and we will be be held accountable for our actions as well, and I'm not talking just about those who choose to participate in sexual sins but also those who turn their heads the other way and say "I think that they should have the same rights as heterosexuals". God said in "The Bible" that it is an ABOMINATION to him. That means that is Detestable, Vulgar, Obscene, Unclean, and Unacceptable!!!! We as a Nation are sliding into Debauchery with our permissive attitudes and Antics. Wake Up People!! If you want this Country to turn around and become something that we can ALL live with, then WE need to turn around and look to God for guidance, and start Serving Him and not ourselves or a political party association. You all seem to be very Intellectual people, which means that you probably read a lot and study a lot. My advice to you would be to start studying "The Bible" and getting your hearts and minds right with GOD. Before it's too late to save this great country that we All call Home.
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING ... (show quote)


I am so glad that our constitution gave us Freedom of and FROM religion. I do read a lot and study a lot and have for over 60 years. Religious bigotry is the curse of the world today, from Christian divides like Ireland and England, to the divisions between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, not to mentions Judaism from Muslims. MY God is inclusive of everyone, and my God is in my own vision, not defined by ancient books written by people who thought the world was flat.
quote=Audie Thornburg You Know what boys and girl... (show quote)


You awoke one morning and declared in you own heart there is no God but me.

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Dec 11, 2012 22:54:32   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
architect wrote:
And what the hell does your opinion about Boys and Girls have to do with the GOP?


What he is saying is that if this country does not change the direction that she is heading then we all are going to have hell to pay. He could have said it without naming God but that was just his way of saying it.

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Dec 11, 2012 23:01:59   #
architect Loc: Chattanooga
 
Bangee5 wrote:
You awoke one morning and declared in you own heart there is no God but me.

Not at all Bangee. After years of searching, attending different Christian churches, and reading the Bible, and learning about other religions, learning about science, astrology, geology, anthropology and chemistry, I decided that any kind of religion that said that good and moral men and women of the Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Taoist, or any other religion on this planet who did not accept Jesus Christ as their savior was going to Hell was simply wrong.

Of course reading Kurt Vonnegut novels did clarify my suspicions, crystal clear.

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Dec 11, 2012 23:48:32   #
tom hughes Loc: Phila Pa
 
sandollor wrote:
<<The biggest problem with the GOP is all the lies>>

The republicans have to lie and deceive to win elections. If they told the truth about thier policial agenda they would never win anything.


Was there ever a bigger Liar in the History of the Presidency than Bill Clinton. Lied to his Cabinet, his family, a grand jury while under oath. Lying is not limited to one party. All politicians lie. Obama, while campaigning, " I will cut the deficit in half my first term, or I will not run for a second term.
Lie! They can't help themselves.

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Dec 12, 2012 00:03:42   #
SHUTERED Loc: SO. CAL.
 
I have an unsettling thought, Might it not be possible that all this posturing over the fiscal cliff is nothing but a public playing to the media. Is it possible that both party's have already agreed to push everything off this cliff? We know, and they know that we do, that billians of dollars are needed very quickly. So all they have to do is weight, let everything go, and instant gratification. INcome tax increases, automatic cuts etc. The beuty of it is no one gets blammed, as they are both pointing fingers at each other. We on the other hand, will for the next 4 years be heatedly debateing this issue on the hog!

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Dec 12, 2012 00:31:51   #
architect Loc: Chattanooga
 
SHUTTERED wrote:
I have an unsettling thought, Might it not be possible that all this posturing over the fiscal cliff is nothing but a public playing to the media. Is it possible that both party's have already agreed to push everything off this cliff? We know, and they know that we do, that billions of dollars are needed very quickly. So all they have to do is weight, let everything go, and instant gratification. Income tax increases, automatic cuts etc. The beauty of it is no one gets blamed, as they are both pointing fingers at each other. We on the other hand, will for the next 4 years be heatedly debating this issue on the hog!
I have an unsettling thought, Might it not be poss... (show quote)

Unsettling thought for sure. But neither party is going to allow the so called "fiscal cliff" to happen. Right now they are just posturing, and satisfying their constituents that they are fighting for what they want to happen, higher tax rates on the rich from the Democrats, and lower expenditures from the Republicans. The compromise, which I hope in my heart that Congress is capable of, will be to allow deduction limits and/ or higher tax rates on incomes of $350 to $500k or more, as Warren Buffet has suggested, and some cost cutting in the entitlements arena, such as aggressively pursuing Medicare and Medicaid fraud, raising SS and Medicare ages incrementally, increasing their limits, and cutting Military spending to a rational level. We are Americans. We can solve this.

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Dec 12, 2012 01:24:48   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
sandollor wrote:
Hal81 wrote:
sandollor wrote:
<<The biggest problem with the GOP is all the lies>>

The republicans have to lie and deceive to win elections. If they told the truth about thier policial agenda they would never win anything.

Lier Lier paints on fire. I didn't have sex with that girl I belive that was a democrat. That is your non lyeing party???I belive if you put the lies in a pile the dems would far out number the GOP.


Thats probley your problem you will believe anything.
quote=Hal81 quote=sandollor <<The biggest ... (show quote)


I beg to differ. Your the one that voted for obummer. Your the one that swallowed that stuff hook line and sinker. So hang on we are in for a rough ride.

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Dec 12, 2012 01:27:35   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Audie Thornburg wrote:
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING THE POINT!!! The Point IS that GOD made us "Boys" and "Girls" to grow up to become "Men" and "Women", able to make our own choices, and the choices that we make will determine, and are determining, our future. The Nation as a whole is now suffering and will suffer greater things than these based on our choices. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, and he has NO Tolerance for such acts. Open your eyes folks, God is not going to turn his head the other way and say "OH WELL!!??. He Gave Extremely Harsh Punishments to the people of the Old Testament, and we will be be held accountable for our actions as well, and I'm not talking just about those who choose to participate in sexual sins but also those who turn their heads the other way and say "I think that they should have the same rights as heterosexuals". God said in "The Bible" that it is an ABOMINATION to him. That means that is Detestable, Vulgar, Obscene, Unclean, and Unacceptable!!!! We as a Nation are sliding into Debauchery with our permissive attitudes and Antics. Wake Up People!! If you want this Country to turn around and become something that we can ALL live with, then WE need to turn around and look to God for guidance, and start Serving Him and not ourselves or a political party association. You all seem to be very Intellectual people, which means that you probably read a lot and study a lot. My advice to you would be to start studying "The Bible" and getting your hearts and minds right with GOD. Before it's too late to save this great country that we All call Home.
You Know what boys and girls? You are ALL MISSING ... (show quote)


Right on :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Dec 12, 2012 01:34:15   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
architect wrote:
SHUTTERED wrote:
I have an unsettling thought, Might it not be possible that all this posturing over the fiscal cliff is nothing but a public playing to the media. Is it possible that both party's have already agreed to push everything off this cliff? We know, and they know that we do, that billions of dollars are needed very quickly. So all they have to do is weight, let everything go, and instant gratification. Income tax increases, automatic cuts etc. The beauty of it is no one gets blamed, as they are both pointing fingers at each other. We on the other hand, will for the next 4 years be heatedly debating this issue on the hog!
I have an unsettling thought, Might it not be poss... (show quote)

Unsettling thought for sure. But neither party is going to allow the so called "fiscal cliff" to happen. Right now they are just posturing, and satisfying their constituents that they are fighting for what they want to happen, higher tax rates on the rich from the Democrats, and lower expenditures from the Republicans. The compromise, which I hope in my heart that Congress is capable of, will be to allow deduction limits and/ or higher tax rates on incomes of $350 to $500k or more, as Warren Buffet has suggested, and some cost cutting in the entitlements arena, such as aggressively pursuing Medicare and Medicaid fraud, raising SS and Medicare ages incrementally, increasing their limits, and cutting Military spending to a rational level. We are Americans. We can solve this.
quote= SHUTTERED I have an unsettling thought, Mi... (show quote)


If this country is saved it will be only by the grace of God. The God You and the country turned your back on.

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Dec 12, 2012 13:40:59   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
sandollor wrote:
If the republicans are to ever regain the trust of the people again they must stop the lying and get in tune with the real world of reality based thinking.


This "lying" contention generalization is growing very tired, as if those in the Democratic Party are bastions of truth. We could both name members in either party who have lied, whether in actuality or our opinion, but what would that prove? That people do lie? Yep, they do, not an earth shattering revelation. 8-)

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Dec 12, 2012 13:47:16   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
sandollor wrote:
They cannot continue to represent a third of the voters interests and win elections by decieving two thirds of the voters.


Gallup
As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents. By 2011 Gallup found that Americans identifying as independents had risen to 40 percent. Gallup's historical data show that the proportion of independents in 2011 was the largest in 60 years. This increase came at the expense of Republican identification, which dropped to 27%, while Democratic identification held steady from 2011. Nevertheless, more American independents leaned to the Republican Party when compared to the Democratic Party. Combining leaners with each party's core identifiers, for 2011 the parties ended up tied at 45 percent.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_U.S._states

I wonder if you consider Ambassador Rice and whoever was pulling her strings as "deceiving" the American People. 8-)

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