rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
BebuLamar wrote:
But I think you unknowingly do often. That's my point. In the US most people don't know where the products they bought came from. In fact when I asked the salesperson where the product is made they gave me a bad look.
Products sold in the US tell
somewhere where it was built. Some stores {this was true of WalMart} sell a lot of Chinese-made goods because they are cheap, cheap, cheap.
At one time I bought a Pentax camera kit, where the body was made in one country and the lens was made in Taiwan. That was many years ago, so I don’t remember which was which.
rehess wrote:
Products sold in the US tell somewhere where it was built. Some stores {this was true of WalMart} sell a lot of Chinese-made goods because they are cheap, cheap, cheap.
At one time I bought a Pentax camera kit, where the body was made in one country and the lens was made in Taiwan. That was many years ago, so I don’t remember which was which.
Although almost (if not all) products sold in the USA labelled as to where it is made or at least assembled. But.. very few people read this label and thus very few know where the product come from when they buy it. This also for the people who do the selling. When asked where the stuff they are selling come from they are annoyyed as if why would you want to know.
rehess wrote:
Products sold in the US tell somewhere where it was built. Some stores {this was true of WalMart} sell a lot of Chinese-made goods because they are cheap, cheap, cheap.
At one time I bought a Pentax camera kit, where the body was made in one country and the lens was made in Taiwan. That was many years ago, so I don’t remember which was which.
Folks often discuss where cameras, lenses, etc, come from.
Few ask where the parts came from.
Auto plants now are mostly assembly plants using parts from all over. The same plant can make parts for different brands. At one point, maybe still true, the Toyota Camry had more US made parts than any US brand. My Acura window sticker claims 65% of parts are from US and Canada. It's a Japanese brand. Go figure!
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NDMarks wrote:
Just a quick comment about Chinese products. There is excellent products from China and there is junk. It is a case of "Buyer Beware". Many, Many years ago most Japanese products were junk, until a couple of American Quality Control masters helped turn Japanese quality around. Look at Japanese products now - cars, cameras etc. The Koreans are also turning around (look at Hyundai). Just because it says China doesn't automatically mean bad. Chinese tractors are an example. Both China and Japan use millions of tractors and their quality is getting better out of necessity.
Just a quick comment about Chinese products. There... (
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Juran and Demming. Brings back memories. Met Demming in London and have a signed "Out of the Crisis" book
Bill_de wrote:
Folks often discuss where cameras, lenses, etc, come from.
Few ask where the parts came from.
Auto plants now are mostly assembly plants using parts from all over. The same plant can make parts for different brands. At one point, maybe still true, the Toyota Camry had more US made parts than any US brand. My Acura window sticker claims 65% of parts are from US and Canada. It's a Japanese brand. Go figure!
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Several years ago there was a $70,000 Cadillac on the dealer's lot. I looked at the sticker and 69% of the parts were made in China! So much for American cars. That's the reward for bailing out GM!
I use an inexpensive TTArtisan 21mm 1.5 and a more expensive Laowa 15mm f/2 Zero-D on my Sony A7R111. Both are great but I like manual focus lenses. I also have two Korean lenses, a Samyang 12mm and 80mm. Both are very sharp and well built.
I just checked my half dozen Canon battery chargers.... all but one were made in China. One (LP-E17) was made in the Philippines. I'd wager most Canon batteries are now made in China, too. The LP-E6N I just checked was made in China.
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2... made in Taiwan (AF).
Sigma 56mm f/1.4... made in Japan (AF).
Tamron 60mm f/2 Macro... made in Japan (AF).
Meike 12mm f/2.8... made in China (also sells as an Opteka lens, image below was shot with it).
Kamlan 50mm f/1.1... made in China.
Rokinon 21mm f/1.4... made in S. Korea.
Most of the above are really beautifully made lenses that have worked quite well. The manual focus lenses typically have a solid "old school" feel to them. The only one that's given me any trouble at all was one of the most expensive... the Rokinon 21mm's lens hood no longer "clicks" in place. I simply replaced it with a screw-in hood that works very well.
Oh, and I've got a Canon EF-S 10-22mm USM sitting here, just checked... made in Japan.
Some Canon lenses that I don't have, but happen to know their source:
RF 16mm f/2.8 STM... Taiwan (AF).
RF 35mm f/1.8 IS STM Macro... Taiwan (AF).
RF 50mm f/1.8 STM.... Malaysia (AF).
RF 85mm f/2 IS STM Macro... Malaysia (AF).
RF 28-70mm f/2L USM... Japan (and not exactly inexpensive).
Viltrox lens adapter and macro extension rings... China.
I've also been using some very affordable K&F Concepts filters, which seem quite good and are made in China with German Schott glass! (A K&F C-Pol was used for the shot below.)
Architect1776 wrote:
I do have an 8mm Rokinon all manual lens.
Well made and produces very good results to my eye (Not a pixel peeper)...
Made in South Korea, not China.
[quote=Urnst]I have an 8mm F4 SLR Magic lens, a 17mm F1.4 TT Artisans lens, a 35mm 1.4 TT Artisans lens and a 50mm F1.2 TT Artisans lens that I use on my Olympus mirrorless camera. Each on is made of metal and glass with no plastic parts and have excellent build quality. I bought them new from B and H for a total of less than $400 US. They are complimented by an 85mm F2 Jupiter lens from the Soviet Union bought used for $55 US used, which is also made of all metal and glass with no plastic.
These are all manual focus and have no communication with the camera. Using focus peaking it is easy and fun to focus them. Image quality? Pretty good actually. They are all very small and light. But the best part is that the collection can be had for a price less than one plastic manufacture's lens.
I would like to hear from others who have taken this approach. Thanks for any replies.[/quote
I think most modern computer designed lenses will probably be rather similar in what they do - probably not using: a shutter release, a tripod, and a lens shade will degrade your image more than differences in lens designs
billnikon wrote:
If it is made in China, I will not buy.
Do you own an Apple products? Almost everything is made in China, thanks to companies wanting to save money. We have made China the high-tech capital of the world. Chinese factories can turn out junk, or they can produce some of the best technical products in the world. We gave China the technology and the means to lead the world, and now we are dependent on them.
Worth watching -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0YHh5Thk9Q
jerryc41 wrote:
Do you own an Apple products? Almost everything is made in China, thanks to companies wanting to save money. We have made China the high-tech capital of the world. Chinese factories can turn out junk, or they can produce some of the best technical products in the world. We gave China the technology and the means to lead the world, and now we are dependent on them.
Worth watching -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0YHh5Thk9QAnd did Apple gave them that? No! It's the people who bought Apple products.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
At the end of its lifetime, the Pentax K1000 was made in China. I sometimes wonder if the Chinese manufacturer put the machinery away, and could revive its manufacture.
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