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Apr 24, 2023 08:52:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
We all know that there are thousands of satellites circling the earth, and probably millions of pieces of space junk orbiting with them. This is becoming a problem for astronomers. The SpaceX satellites - more than 4,200 so far - are especially distracting because there are so many of them, and they are so bright. Efforts to make them less bright haven't been successful. There have been efforts to require all satellites to include a way to de-orbit them, but launchers aren't cooperating. It's more technology and more weight.

It's funny how everything that humans do causes problems.

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Apr 24, 2023 08:55:43   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
We all know that there are thousands of satellites circling the earth, and probably millions of pieces of space junk orbiting with them. This is becoming a problem for astronomers. The SpaceX satellites - more than 4,200 so far - are especially distracting because there are so many of them, and they are so bright. Efforts to make them less bright haven't been successful. There have been efforts to require all satellites to include a way to de-orbit them, but launchers aren't cooperating. It's more technology and more weight.

It's funny how everything that humans do causes problems.
We all know that there are thousands of satellites... (show quote)


None of the stuff human do would cause problem including burning fossil fuel, chopping the forest for wood etc.. but they all become problems when they are done excessively then even the eating would cause problem.

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Apr 24, 2023 09:02:54   #
W9OD Loc: Wisconsin
 
You are right Jerry. We are turning space into a garbage dump.

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Apr 24, 2023 22:50:22   #
RiJoRi Loc: Sandy Ridge, NC
 
Law of Unintended Consequences.

--Rich

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Apr 25, 2023 07:00:29   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
And apparently it will get a lot worse - it seems China and Russia, viewing Starlink as a potential weapon for the west, are planning their own low-orbit galaxies of satellites - which may include weaponry to destroy other satellites.

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Apr 25, 2023 07:18:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
f8lee wrote:
And apparently it will get a lot worse - it seems China and Russia, viewing Starlink as a potential weapon for the west, are planning their own low-orbit galaxies of satellites - which may include weaponry to destroy other satellites.


Destroying satellites is a very bad idea. When China destroyed one of its own, it spread thousands more pieces of junk in orbit.

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Apr 25, 2023 09:10:43   #
Canisdirus
 
jerryc41 wrote:
We all know that there are thousands of satellites circling the earth, and probably millions of pieces of space junk orbiting with them. This is becoming a problem for astronomers. The SpaceX satellites - more than 4,200 so far - are especially distracting because there are so many of them, and they are so bright. Efforts to make them less bright haven't been successful. There have been efforts to require all satellites to include a way to de-orbit them, but launchers aren't cooperating. It's more technology and more weight.

It's funny how everything that humans do causes problems.
We all know that there are thousands of satellites... (show quote)


Mankind has several fatal flaws...not surprising since we are relatively new.

One of them is the ability to calculate accurately convenience vs. cost.

The 'shiny object' syndrome is well in play all the time.

So are the 'hangovers'.

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Apr 25, 2023 09:56:11   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Mankind has several fatal flaws...not surprising since we are relatively new.

One of them is the INability to calculate accurately convenience vs. cost.

The 'shiny object' syndrome is well in play all the time.

So are the 'hangovers'.

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Apr 25, 2023 10:42:53   #
Burtzy Loc: Bronx N.Y. & Simi Valley, CA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
None of the stuff human do would cause problem including burning fossil fuel, chopping the forest for wood etc.. but they all become problems when they are done excessively then even the eating would cause problem.


Maybe we should eat the satellites and fossil fuel. That might eliminate a bunch of problem-causing humans.

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Apr 25, 2023 10:49:32   #
BebuLamar
 
Burtzy wrote:
Maybe we should eat the satellites and fossil fuel. That might eliminate a bunch of problem-causing humans.


Just need to be moderate in everything.

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Apr 25, 2023 11:22:50   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
On the bright side, the more space junk that orbits the earth the more that it blocks the sun's rays so in a way, it helps prevent Global Warming.😜

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Apr 25, 2023 13:40:54   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
jerryc41 wrote:


It's funny how everything that humans do causes problems.


For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Or another way of saying karma.

will

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Apr 25, 2023 17:23:39   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
We all know that there are thousands of satellites circling the earth, and probably millions of pieces of space junk orbiting with them. This is becoming a problem for astronomers. The SpaceX satellites - more than 4,200 so far - are especially distracting because there are so many of them, and they are so bright. Efforts to make them less bright haven't been successful. There have been efforts to require all satellites to include a way to de-orbit them, but launchers aren't cooperating. It's more technology and more weight.

It's funny how everything that humans do causes problems.
We all know that there are thousands of satellites... (show quote)


Well, who else would they blame?

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Apr 26, 2023 02:10:05   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
On the bright side, the more space junk that orbits the earth the more that it blocks the sun's rays so in a way, it helps prevent Global Warming.😜


πŸ‘

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Apr 26, 2023 06:21:37   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
We all know that there are thousands of satellites circling the earth, and probably millions of pieces of space junk orbiting with them. This is becoming a problem for astronomers. The SpaceX satellites - more than 4,200 so far - are especially distracting because there are so many of them, and they are so bright. Efforts to make them less bright haven't been successful. There have been efforts to require all satellites to include a way to de-orbit them, but launchers aren't cooperating. It's more technology and more weight.

It's funny how everything that humans do causes problems.
We all know that there are thousands of satellites... (show quote)


It’s only a matter of time when space junk will be falling out of the sky, on ppl, like other types of pollution. Plastic in the oceans EG. Till then, out of sight, out of mind. Then it’s a scramble to address it!!?

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