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Apr 22, 2023 17:03:03   #
aammatj Loc: Zebulon, NC / Roscoe, Ill
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You probably want to do something different:

1, Call the 800 number identified earlier.

alternatively

2, Access Adobe.com and sign-in using your Adobe credentials.
3. Access Help & Support
4, Click "Contact Us", force the virtual assistant to give you over to a human


It worked. Just had to check one box under edit<preferences, technology review

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Apr 22, 2023 18:14:01   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
aammatj wrote:
When I go to the tech support sight, I am asked several questions and then the system asks for a $1 deposit and $55/month for support


800 833 6687 is Adobe's number. You do not have to pay for these independent geeks who want money. They are probable or could be legit, but why mess with them when Adobe Help is easy to contact, and does a great job of helping

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Apr 22, 2023 18:38:39   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
sodapop wrote:
800 833 6687 is Adobe's number. You do not have to pay for these independent geeks who want money. They are probable or could be legit, but why mess with them when Adobe Help is easy to contact, and does a great job of helping


And it's included in the subscription.

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Apr 22, 2023 19:56:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
aammatj wrote:
It worked. Just had to check one box under edit<preferences, technology review


Hooray!!

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Apr 22, 2023 19:57:52   #
aammatj Loc: Zebulon, NC / Roscoe, Ill
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Hooray!!


Thanks for your help

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Apr 22, 2023 21:11:01   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder if it was always that way,
If you have read the fine print, on the software contracts (a.k.a. Agreements) then you will know the answer is yes it was pretty much always that way.
jerryc41 wrote:
Or if some clever guy thought of a way to sell it but still let the company maintain ownership. Unfortunately, that's extending to all sorts of actual, physical items now. Want to fix your Ford or your John Deere? That might not be possible.

EDIT: https://www.sitepoint.com/is-software-licensed-or-sold/

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Apr 22, 2023 21:14:32   #
frangeo Loc: Texas
 
aammatj wrote:
One day it just stopped working i.e. When i tried to open a file after making edits, the working area of the screen turns solid white and starts flashing. I can't get any help from Adobe and user groups can't explain it.



Go to PS EDIT -- Preferences -- Technology Previews -- deactivate Native Canvas. Reboot. Fixed My problem.

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Apr 22, 2023 21:46:17   #
Flakes Mill
 
aammatj wrote:
One day it just stopped working i.e. When i tried to open a file after making edits, the working area of the screen turns solid white and starts flashing. I can't get any help from Adobe and user groups can't explain it.


Lightroom did a similar trick to me. I have the last copy of Lightroom that I bought. I don't use it that often, so I don't want to pay for a subscription I hardly use. One day while using it, I could no longer export!! I still can't and don't know what to do. Also, one day I opened it in Library Mode and it had Face Recognition on it and I couldn't get rid of it. Then one day 2-3 years later, it just disappeared. Lightroom has a mind of its own. It is too hard for me to deal with.

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Apr 22, 2023 21:51:41   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Flakes Mill wrote:
Lightroom did a similar trick to me. I have the last copy of Lightroom that I bought. I don't use it that often, so I don't want to pay for a subscription I hardly use. One day while using it, I could no longer export!! I still can't and don't know what to do. Also, one day I opened it in Library Mode and it had Face Recognition on it and I couldn't get rid of it. Then one day 2-3 years later, it just disappeared. Lightroom has a mind of its own. It is too hard for me to deal with.
😂

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Apr 22, 2023 23:26:51   #
JacksonHD Loc: NorCal
 
BebuLamar wrote:
... but in the contract it allowed Microsoft to sell MS-DOS.....


Yes.

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Apr 23, 2023 00:09:01   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I'll let others confirm whether that's how Adobe operates in April 2023. It doesn't sound like you were on Adobe.com.



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Apr 23, 2023 06:24:32   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Learning software is daunting, sign up for Paid Courses on line or do what most do You Tube/Photoshop/Lightroom.

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Apr 23, 2023 11:17:41   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
burkphoto wrote:
The Adobe apps only connect to the Internet to check in monthly and see whether you've paid your bill, AND to check for updates and upgrades.

We LICENSE software, no matter how it is paid for. We don't buy it. The terms of the license vary from package to package. Read the End User License Agreement that you have to agree to before installing...

When we went to the computer store and "bought" packaged software, we were really just paying for a license and all of the distribution costs of manuals and discs. Now, all manuals are online, either in the Help menu or as downloadable PDF files. The license is either perpetual FOR ONE VERSION of the software, or an ongoing subscription.

Professionals generally prefer the subscription model for the predictability of the expense and the "always up to date" drip feed of new features. Security fixes, bug fixes, updates, and version upgrades can be installed as soon as they are available. The learning curve for new features is shallower and easier to handle.

The downside is that you can't keep old hardware and old operating system around for a decade or more... The latest subscription software requires fairly recent hardware and software if you really want it to run efficiently.
The Adobe apps only connect to the Internet to che... (show quote)


This mistaken idea that you "own" previous versions of Photoshop et al will likely never go away. One of the dumbest things I have ever heard is the very common "I don't rent my software." Even though you have to agree to legal terms before you can install it, they still think that they own it.

If I own a car I can lend it to someone; if I own a house I can let someone stay for as long as I wish; but if you let someone install your copy of Photoshop on their computer, you're breaking the law. If you install it on more than two computers you own, you're breaking the law. If you owned it, you would have the source code and you could make changes to it, but since you don't, it is illegal to do that. If you owned it, you could give away as many copies as you wished to, but since you have a license that forbids that, if you do it, you are breaking the law. It is no different than a photographer licensing his photos.

Any time I decide that I can no longer afford $10 a month, I can go to Adobe's site and download the last CS version I had. I can then use that forever, but without any of the modern AI features, and no chance of any update. I can always have Photoshop in some form, but I can never "own" it.

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Apr 23, 2023 11:52:30   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
terryMc wrote:
This mistaken idea that you "own" previous versions of Photoshop et al will likely never go away. One of the dumbest things I have ever heard is the very common "I don't rent my software." Even though you have to agree to legal terms before you can install it, they still think that they own it.

I doubt you will find anyone that routinely uses a computer and computer software that actually thinks they "own" the software so they can make copies and sell it with no copywrite infringements. About everyone knows this. You should know, and you probably do, that when people talk about "renting" software like PS, they are talking about paying a monthly ransom to use it, as opposed to something like Affinity, where you make a onetime payment (own it) and can use it forever with no additional fees. In this context, rental and subscription software have the same meaning and "owning" simply means no monthly fees. This usage of the terms will never go away, and for good reason, everyone understands the concepts. If they didn't, everyone would be selling copies of whatever software they "own"

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Apr 23, 2023 11:54:05   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
terryMc wrote:
This mistaken idea that you "own" previous versions of Photoshop et al will likely never go away. One of the dumbest things I have ever heard is the very common "I don't rent my software." Even though you have to agree to legal terms before you can install it, they still think that they own it.

If I own a car I can lend it to someone; if I own a house I can let someone stay for as long as I wish; but if you let someone install your copy of Photoshop on their computer, you're breaking the law. If you install it on more than two computers you own, you're breaking the law. If you owned it, you would have the source code and you could make changes to it, but since you don't, it is illegal to do that. If you owned it, you could give away as many copies as you wished to, but since you have a license that forbids that, if you do it, you are breaking the law. It is no different than a photographer licensing his photos.

Any time I decide that I can no longer afford $10 a month, I can go to Adobe's site and download the last CS version I had. I can then use that forever, but without any of the modern AI features, and no chance of any update. I can always have Photoshop in some form, but I can never "own" it.
This mistaken idea that you "own" previo... (show quote)



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