New Photoshop ACR AI-Denoise feature (Page 2): Photoshop is my main go-to from Lightroom for all my work. However, the Topaz AI feature is phenomenal, and only takes seconds to perform...

sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

ImageCreator wrote:

With the recent update to ACR, Adobe has added an AI Denoise feature. Its easy to use and appears to do a reasonable job. I tried on an obvious noise image shot at ISO 1600 and it worked great.

One negative is that it takes about 15-20 minutes. If you are not using Topaz or some other denoise program, not sure anyone is gonna want to wait that long to process one image. Certainly not me. I'll stick with Topaz.

Photoshop is my main go-to from Lightroom for all my work. However, the Topaz AI feature is phenomenal, and only takes seconds to perform their tasks. I will stick with Topaz for these functions for sure

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

A much better video comparison using plane surfaces and even a color chart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1DOSho8yeI

Canisdirus

Not sure what is going on.

I just did a 6400 iso shot ...took less than a minute...which was at lvl 100...I usually have used it at lvl 50 or 60.

CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA

AI features convinced me to splurge on a new computer. 32 gig ram, RTX 3900ti video card, Intel i9 processor. It's a shame that we need this, but I was able to swing it and the result is a very fast machine that handles AI easily. When it's idle, it runs BOINC to do medical research for various universities.

neillaubenthal

I'm guessing that LR's won't be as good since it is new and Topaz/DxO/et al are in generation 3 or more…but it does have the advantage of never leaving LR. Remember that better is the enemy of good enough…and for many shots and styles and output destinations LR's will be just fine. Will Topaz/DxO do better…certainly for some shots but likely not for all…and even if it will do better if you're printing 8x10 or using screen output only the 'better' might not be visible in the final output. I've got both Topaz and DxO 3 and primarily use the latter…but Topaz Photo AI has done pretty well on the shots I've tried it on and I'm sure that LR's will be adequate for a lot of purposes/shots as well.

Canisdirus

neillaubenthal wrote:

I'm guessing that LR's won't be as good since it i... (show quote)

So far...tests are showing it is just as good.

tomc601 Loc: Gilbert, AZ

Using a MAC Studio with 32GB RAM it took no longer than 25 seconds to process all the images I sent to LR Denoise. All the images I used were from D800.

Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara

so I have a M1 Mac Mini with 16gb ram

a 31MB raw image in ACR took about a minute. The biggest problem I see with the Adobe version is that is pretty much as push a button and done. I have Topaz DeNoise and On1 NoNoise. But the image with no other processing became 171MB

in standalone Topaz DeNoise it took about 10 seconds or less from start to finish. But I got a 172MB file. it was bit faster using Topaz DeNoise as a plugin but same file size

With On1 NoNoise inside On1 Raw it is just a raw setting with a couple of version plus multiple sliders. It took about 8 secs and the original image was not touched. the On1 sidecar was 658KB.

I am surprised adobe released this right to a fully released function. Usually they will be putting something this in a beta release first like they do some of the neural filters. As a retired software exec I can tell you .0 releases are for features and testing (yes you are a guinea pig). Then .1 and beyond address bug fixes and performance.

Time will tell

TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA

ImageCreator wrote:

With the recent update to ACR, Adobe has added an AI Denoise feature. Its easy to use and appears to do a reasonable job. I tried on an obvious noise image shot at ISO 1600 and it worked great.

One negative is that it takes about 15-20 minutes. If you are not using Topaz or some other denoise program, not sure anyone is gonna want to wait that long to process one image. Certainly not me. I'll stick with Topaz.

What CPUs and GPUs are you using? 15-20 minutes seems terribly slow. My Ryzen 5 and RX 6700 XT combination only requires less than 5 seconds for DxO PL6 DeepPrime XD to process images shot at ISO 25600. Admitted, mine are only 20MP Raw images, but that difference still seems excessive.

bebop22 Loc: New York City

I let a litte noise stay to give some character. Its all too clean.

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

ImageCreator wrote:

With the recent update to ACR, Adobe has added an AI Denoise feature. Its easy to use and appears to do a reasonable job. I tried on an obvious noise image shot at ISO 1600 and it worked great.

One negative is that it takes about 15-20 minutes. If you are not using Topaz or some other denoise program, not sure anyone is gonna want to wait that long to process one image. Certainly not me. I'll stick with Topaz.

Something wrong with your 15-20 minute denoise. It only took 15 seconds for me to denoise a 60MP file off a Sony A7R V!

bwa

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

As a longtime user of LrC, and a user of the most recent version of Topaz before AI, I have never been unhappy with what LrC produces. Denoise AI in LrC -- WOW! Adobe does warn that you need a powerful GPU to expect any real speed with the new tool, and I am happy to report that I have that. LrC Denoise was no real challenge for my Mac STUDIO ULTRA. I am just learning how to best apply this and I'm certain Adobe will expand on it in the future. I read somewhere, on the Adobe website I think, that it will be expanded from RAW to other file types. Best of luck.

Jsykes

ImageCreator wrote:

With the recent update to ACR, Adobe has added an AI Denoise feature. Its easy to use and appears to do a reasonable job. I tried on an obvious noise image shot at ISO 1600 and it worked great.

One negative is that it takes about 15-20 minutes. If you are not using Topaz or some other denoise program, not sure anyone is gonna want to wait that long to process one image. Certainly not me. I'll stick with Topaz.

See Kloskowski video:

https://mattk.com/a-deeper-look-at-lightrooms-new-noise-reduction/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=What+s+NEW+in+Lightroom+April+Update+%28Noise+Reduction+%2B+Masking%29+%F0%9F%93%B7&utm_campaign=Lightroom+April+Update+%28Engagement+April+21%29&vgo_ee=66DYkJRACjAu1gNO4CG5js54kWtyhAb8VDGGenfGyTH%2Bp42p%3AEpIZJSejL132IYhW60gxMfLub4Duw1gO

KenProspero

CPU- AMD Ryzen 7 5800 (8 Core)
GPU- AMD RX 6600 XT
RAM 16gb 3466 MHz DDR4 Memory

On a half dozen test shots at 50% it's taking 20-25 seconds average.

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

rmalarz wrote:

Film has grain. Digital has, an electrical engineering term, noise. I think this is a negative aspect from the start and unfortunate. For those of us who worked with film, grain at higher ISO settings was part of life. Due to the "bad" connotation, the term noise has numerous processing software companies providing us with ways to mitigate this issue. Like grain, it's simply part of the photographic process.
--Bob

Stan