I believe Pres. Obama made a very derogatory statement about Joe's ability to really F* things up some years ago.
bcheary wrote:
https://amgreatness.com/2023/04/15/biden-is-even-worse-than-obama/?seyid=60356
"Rather than stabilizing things as the moderate Democrat he pretended to be, at every crossroads Biden has made decisions that make the country weaker, more hated,
more fragile, and less unified."