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Apr 11, 2023 09:24:24   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
These are all beautiful images. The colours and clarity are wonderful - let alone the interesting subjects!

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Apr 11, 2023 09:33:58   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 

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Apr 11, 2023 10:18:28   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Great series, Jim.

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Apr 11, 2023 10:30:49   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Those darn graffiti artists will draw on everything.😜

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Apr 11, 2023 12:55:08   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Beautiful set, Jim! It has been a while since you posted any rock art.

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Apr 11, 2023 16:38:23   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Nice place to stroll, nicely treated.

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Apr 11, 2023 18:45:09   #
dcholley Loc: Nashville, TN
 
Any speculation about how they positioned the art so high?

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Apr 11, 2023 20:02:10   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
dcholley wrote:
Any speculation about how they positioned the art so high?


All but one --the one that's shown in image #2-- of these rock art panels are at easily reachable levels, so there'd have been no difficulty there. The panel shown in #2, on the other hand, is indeed high up (perhaps 30 feet or more above ground level), but the rock below and in front of the panel is scale-able. Granted, to climb up there would be a dicey sort of scramble, but it's entirely do-able. That said, after accessing the high rock wall, the person who pecked the various figures (and/or anybody who tried to climb it now) would've had virtually no room to maneuver.

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Apr 11, 2023 20:07:16   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Cany143 wrote:
All but one --the one that's shown in image #2-- of these rock art panels are at easily reachable levels, so there'd have been no difficulty there. The panel shown in #2, on the other hand, is indeed high up (perhaps 30 feet or more above ground level), but the rock below and in front of the panel is scale-able. Granted, to climb up there would be a dicey sort of scramble, but it's entirely do-able. That said, after accessing the high rock wall, the person who pecked the various figures (and/or anybody who tried to climb it now) would've had virtually no room to maneuver.
All but one --the one that's shown in image #2-- o... (show quote)


These days they call it levitation. No idea what they called it back in the day!!

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Apr 11, 2023 22:03:36   #
Hereford Loc: Palm Coast, FL
 
All are great shots. And you did find another gnarly old juniper tree hanging about half way between life and death.

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Apr 12, 2023 00:33:58   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
Cany143 wrote:
One of them says, "Eat At Joe's". Another says something about a product called 'Burma Shave'. The largest of the lot says, "If You Can Read This, You're Too Damn Close".

The rest of the petroglyphs were probably pecked out by Aliens so whatever they might be saying is foreign to me. The rock faces, on the other hand were completely silent, but every now and then I could hear a tree whispering in the breeze. Whatever was said though was hard to make out.


I liked your responses to longmg. I know that Joe's Crab Shack is a good place to eat, except in Pittsburgh. I also have seen enough about petroglyphs that no one alive today really knows what they say. I found it to be an interesting possibility that some of the scenes could have been carved, pecked, by aliens themselves. That might explain some of the differences in dress or species. I've also read enough of your discourses to know that you probably have your own speculations, but may be reluctant to to put anything into public print. I for one, and I think several others, would like to hear your speculations. Because we know that your knowledge of the area is vast, in oh so many disciplines. After all, speculations lead to theories. Theories are then proven or disproven. And this is the way scientific knowledge moves forward. A PM to me will go no farther, will not be quoted. Just mulled around and considered in this private skull.

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Apr 12, 2023 02:05:09   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
lmTrying wrote:
I liked your responses to longmg. I know that Joe's Crab Shack is a good place to eat, except in Pittsburgh. I also have seen enough about petroglyphs that no one alive today really knows what they say. I found it to be an interesting possibility that some of the scenes could have been carved, pecked, by aliens themselves. That might explain some of the differences in dress or species. I've also read enough of your discourses to know that you probably have your own speculations, but may be reluctant to to put anything into public print. I for one, and I think several others, would like to hear your speculations. Because we know that your knowledge of the area is vast, in oh so many disciplines. After all, speculations lead to theories. Theories are then proven or disproven. And this is the way scientific knowledge moves forward. A PM to me will go no farther, will not be quoted. Just mulled around and considered in this private skull.
I liked your responses to longmg. I know that Joe... (show quote)


Thanks for the heads up about how the 'Joe's Crab Shack' in Pittsburgh sucks, I'm. Saves me from wasting time and gas and maybe getting ptomaine poisoning. Any word about the 'Joe's' in Kennebunkport, Maine? Or the one in Madison, Wisconsin? A body's gotta eat, y'know, and tomorrow's lunch time is getting closer and closer by the second....

While I have indeed publicly speculated about certain very particular rock art styles, the bulk of what I've written or published or presented at conferences --or discussed firsthand with Native Americans-- was more science and/or fact based than it was speculative. UHH is a photography forum, though, not a peer reviewed archaeological digest, and if I tried to write a reasoned accounting of even a single r.a. panel here, it would run to pages, not paragraphs. One or two folks here might find something like that vaguely interesting, but most would likely not.

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Apr 12, 2023 09:51:54   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I would!

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Apr 12, 2023 22:34:25   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
Cany143 wrote:
Thanks for the heads up about how the 'Joe's Crab Shack' in Pittsburgh sucks, I'm. Saves me from wasting time and gas and maybe getting ptomaine poisoning. Any word about the 'Joe's' in Kennebunkport, Maine? Or the one in Madison, Wisconsin? A body's gotta eat, y'know, and tomorrow's lunch time is getting closer and closer by the second....

While I have indeed publicly speculated about certain very particular rock art styles, the bulk of what I've written or published or presented at conferences --or discussed firsthand with Native Americans-- was more science and/or fact based than it was speculative. UHH is a photography forum, though, not a peer reviewed archaeological digest, and if I tried to write a reasoned accounting of even a single r.a. panel here, it would run to pages, not paragraphs. One or two folks here might find something like that vaguely interesting, but most would likely not.
Thanks for the heads up about how the 'Joe's Crab ... (show quote)


Where can I find these papers? I'd like to know more on people's thoughts on the subject.

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Apr 13, 2023 01:55:32   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
lmTrying wrote:
Where can I find these papers? I'd like to know more on people's thoughts on the subject.


Google is your friend, I'm. Type in 'rock art' and see what you get.

Plenty of books are available, too, and I can recommend:

Legacy on Stone: Rock Art of the Colorado Plateau and Four Corners Region - Sally J Cole
The Rock Art of Utah - Polly Schaafsma
Rock Art of the Grand Canyon Region - Christensen, Dickey, and Freers

If you know how to do deep research on-line, hundreds of books, articles, papers, MA and PhD theses and etc. can be accessed and read. You may also be able to download:

The Archaeology of Horseshoe Canyon --Schaafsma, Schroedl, Geib, Tipps, and me.
2004-2006 River Corridor Architecture and Rock Art Survey - Eininger, Martin, Memory, Hurst, Irwin, Kinnear-Ferris, Skeirik, and me.

If you can't find them on-line, contact Canyonlands Nat'l Park and ask to speak with the archaeologist.

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