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Apr 5, 2023 19:02:24   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
charles brown wrote:
IMHO With the improved photographic capabilities being made in smartphones most likely 85-90 percent of the people will be satisfied using their phones as cameras. For the rest of us I am sure that the major manufactures will continue to make "real" cameras. But will they have enough customers to continue to produce such a wide variety of cameras. Who knows. Most likely the number of manufactures will be less.

An article in PetaPixel yesterday mentioned that Gen Z's are rediscovering the increased picture quality of modern DSLRs and even decade old Digital pocket cameras 📷!

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Apr 6, 2023 04:43:57   #
gwilliams6
 
delder wrote:
Just came across this article myself! Remember, we can't really predict or understand some of these trends. REMEMBER, vinyl just outsold CD'S this year...

Tube Amplifiers are still very much in use AND still being made.

If we can find a parallel between Consumer Audio and Photography,
We could be in for a whole new generation of DSLR users!

We will, of course, need the SD card to smartphone adapter to instantly share the results.



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Apr 6, 2023 04:45:45   #
gwilliams6
 
delder wrote:
An article in PetaPixel yesterday mentioned that Gen Z's are rediscovering the increased picture quality of modern DSLRs and even decade old Digital pocket cameras 📷!


Yes that exact article has been mentioned in this thread.

Cheers and best to you.

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Apr 6, 2023 06:24:08   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
delder wrote:
An article in PetaPixel yesterday mentioned that Gen Z's are rediscovering the increased picture quality of modern DSLRs and even decade old Digital pocket cameras 📷!

I still have the ‘110’ camera I purchased in the 1970’s; perhaps I’ll even purchase some film and use it - or the more advanced one I inherited from my Mother - some day. Pentax is exploring the idea of producing 35mm cameras again - I may even purchase a pocketable camera of their modern production to carry around with me. I am already occasionally purchasing film for the Pentax “Super Program” I purchased in 1983. Don’t talk about real photography in the past tense.

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Apr 6, 2023 12:31:44   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
delder wrote:
An article in PetaPixel yesterday mentioned that Gen Z's are rediscovering the increased picture quality of modern DSLRs and even decade old Digital pocket cameras 📷!


There is also a rediscovery of 35mm film, and the cameras made for film. But just like the rediscovery of Lps and integrated sound systems it will always be a very small percentage of the population. Whether we like it or not, the smartphone will continue to be the camera of choice for most people. And as improvements continue in the development of smartphone cameras that percentage will continue to grow.

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Apr 6, 2023 12:48:37   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Perhaps I am just an old guy with a grey beard and becoming grouchy with age. So, I am gettg sick and tired of folks categorizing each other and causing more and more division. So many ..." isms"- racism, ageism, anti-everyone-ism, terrorism, and the list goes on ad infinitum! Millanuums do this and Gen Zs do that. It all makes me wanna puke!

People are individuals and each has their own state of being. Photograhy is an art, a craft, a science, and a technology. People change and evolve and so do all arts, crafts sciences, and technologies.

So, you mix people with photography you get some folks doing things the old ways, and some folks doing things the new ways, and some fokls are gonna do things that nobody has ever done before. When fols do this differently from YOU, don't be so quick to criticize them. Why not listen to their rationale- you might learn something even if it is how NOT to do something .

Not everyone has to follow trends or join tribes or cults. And, STOP defining photographers of every ilk by their equipment choices. Alfred Eisenstadt was using a "miniature" Ermanox camera when most "press" photogrher were lugging around bulkey Graflex models. I have seen striking and elegant architectural photographs made with a Minox. Diane Arbus did some of the most notable work with a Polaroid camera. There is an "old guy" in the current press pool, often seen at major events, shooting with a 4x5 Speed Graphic among a sea of mirrorless digital gear.

If anything kills this industry, art, hobby, job, or whatever you want to call it, it won't be the gear manufacturers or the folks who consume their merchandise- it will be the intolerance, inhumanity, and ignorance that kills everythg else!

Y'all have a nice day!

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Apr 6, 2023 14:38:05   #
druthven
 
billnikon wrote:
When smart phones can do this, I will use one, end of discussion.


AMEN!

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Apr 6, 2023 15:50:23   #
Don.Y Loc: East Ballina,NSW.,Australia
 

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Apr 10, 2023 18:04:45   #
Pepsiman Loc: New York City
 
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Apr 10, 2023 19:03:40   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Perhaps I am just an old guy with a grey beard and becoming grouchy with age. So, I am gettg sick and tired of folks categorizing each other and causing more and more division. So many ..." isms"- racism, ageism, anti-everyone-ism, terrorism, and the list goes on ad infinitum! Millanuums do this and Gen Zs do that. It all makes me wanna puke!

People are individuals and each has their own state of being. Photograhy is an art, a craft, a science, and a technology. People change and evolve and so do all arts, crafts sciences, and technologies.

So, you mix people with photography you get some folks doing things the old ways, and some folks doing things the new ways, and some fokls are gonna do things that nobody has ever done before. When fols do this differently from YOU, don't be so quick to criticize them. Why not listen to their rationale- you might learn something even if it is how NOT to do something .

Not everyone has to follow trends or join tribes or cults. And, STOP defining photographers of every ilk by their equipment choices. Alfred Eisenstadt was using a "miniature" Ermanox camera when most "press" photogrher were lugging around bulkey Graflex models. I have seen striking and elegant architectural photographs made with a Minox. Diane Arbus did some of the most notable work with a Polaroid camera. There is an "old guy" in the current press pool, often seen at major events, shooting with a 4x5 Speed Graphic among a sea of mirrorless digital gear.

If anything kills this industry, art, hobby, job, or whatever you want to call it, it won't be the gear manufacturers or the folks who consume their merchandise- it will be the intolerance, inhumanity, and ignorance that kills everythg else!

Y'all have a nice day!
Perhaps I am just an old guy with a grey beard and... (show quote)


I SO MUCH agree with your analysis of photography as an Art, Craft & Technology.

If we apply the practice of other art forms to Photography, we can easily see that there is room for all!

Remember, the ORIGINAL Camera was the Camera Obscurea, which involves tracing the projected image. At that time, people were painting with oil, watercolor & other media (as art was drawn by humans since cave days).

My point HERE is that, YES Artists 🎨 are STILL using these historic media to paint with.
Yes, we now have computer AND A/I generated graphics, color printing and many other ways to create artwork BUT we don't go around telling Artists to stop using Oil paint & brushes!

As Photographers, we shouldn't go around telling our fellow Artists to stop using any historic/legacy photo equipment in the pursuit of their Art/Craft.

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Apr 10, 2023 19:06:54   #
Don.Y Loc: East Ballina,NSW.,Australia
 

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