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Apr 6, 2023 16:12:50   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Thomas902 wrote:
John Matthew the lion's share of "large scale farmers" have become no more that agents of Monsanto...
The "family farm" is sadly becoming a dream of days of future past...

"He who is free of sin let them cast the first stone"
I would suggest you read Rachel Carson's Silent Spring...
Monsanto's chemicals travel not only through the environment, but through food chains.

Monsanto's roles in agricultural? A Giant in biotechnology products, lobbying of government agencies, and roots as a chemical company. This is the company that manufactured insecticide DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange, and recombinant bovine growth hormone etc. And they aggressive sue farmers who save their seeds to plant again during the next growing season

John, maybe refocus your rage where it truly belongs...
Monsanto (Bill Gates is a major share holder in the aforementioned)

Words to live by: "Live simply so that others simply may live"

Centuries ago the Dutch reclaimed "Farmland" via solar i.e. Wind Power
Any inference that Farmland can't be "reclaimed" is blatantly false...

I lived in Eastern OR for a period where the deep ground water aquifers were tapped yielding vast acreages of fertile "Farmland" where before only desert plants could survive...

While working for Chevron in the Rocky Mountain Over-thrust region I was repeatedly flown to Houston for training seminars and out of the window of the jetliner I could see circular islands of emerald green farmland generated from the Ogallala Aquifer which is the largest aquifer in the United States and is a major aquifer of Texas underlying much of the High Plains region. The aquifer has a maximum thickness of 800 feet.

Yes I graduated with a Degree in Geology and Chemistry... However it was during the Oil Embargo of the 1970's and the petroleum industry made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

I strongly challenge the premise that farmland can't be generated! I've personally seen this at a HUGE scale.
Want to farm? Move to Eastern OR... it's a thriving business there and the USGS Geologist have mapped out huge deep ground water aquifers... Back in the day windmills dotted Kansas Nebraska farmlands and were viewed as a God Send to farmers of those regions.

All the best on your epic journey John Matthew...
Trust that you and your family thrive...
Cheers! Thomas
John Matthew the lion's share of "large scale... (show quote)


When I was a Junior in high school - 1944 - we lived on a farm out of the La Grande area - near Summerville - and I went to Imbler High School - 4 rooms and about 30 total students in all 4 grades. In that region they said there were two seasons, winter and August, which was pretty close to being correct. It resulted in a very short growing season, but everything really took advantage of that short time, and grew like you wouldn't believe. We saw alfalfa - not quite ready to cut - which I couldn't see over, and I'm six feet tall. I could stand in our (1 acre plus) garden and I swear, actually see the Golden Bantam corn grow! The soil was relatively new, and all the crops were fantastic. We just had to cut and store 12 cords of wood for the winter. There was only about two feet of snow on the ground for two or three months - but they said it usually was closer to six feet! There were remarkable old people and old horses - one team of old horses was so lively that we had to work to keep them from trotting while pulling a wagon load of hay to the barn! And their owner, who was 80 years old, said if he shoveled manure (with a manure fork) in the barn for a day, he had to rest the next day. I think that's about the hardest work you can do!!!!! There was a lot of fescue grown in that area, for seed. I don't know what it's like there now, but when we were there it was a really marvelous area!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Apr 6, 2023 18:20:53   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
jaymatt wrote:
The title is borrowed from a book by Alexander Cordell, written in 1959. Mr. Cordell probably had only an inkling of what was to come.

My photo was taken northeast of Elwood, Indiana. These things stretch for miles.


Yeah, these are a lot worse than the beautiful coal/diesel burning power plants.

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Apr 6, 2023 18:41:10   #
Dan Thornton Loc: Corpus Christi, Texas
 
jaymatt wrote:
The title is borrowed from a book by Alexander Cordell, written in 1959. Mr. Cordell probably had only an inkling of what was to come.

My photo was taken northeast of Elwood, Indiana. These things stretch for miles.


If this continues, what will the countryside look like in 50 years? We have more than our share in south Texas.

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Apr 6, 2023 19:21:29   #
GreyOwl40 Loc: Quebec City
 
Can sympathise with your frustration, John. A couple of years ago I was driving back from Norwalk, OH, to Toronto, passing through Detroit. East of Windsor, off of hwy 401, they were everywhere - miles of them. I wonder how many we will see when everyone is running round in EVs.

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Apr 6, 2023 19:22:10   #
Stevey
 
Only possible b/c government subsidies....when they stop...how will they be maintained? Have you seen the graveyards for blades that have been damaged or removed? Huge area!

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Apr 6, 2023 21:30:29   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
StanMac wrote:
When land becomes more valuable for use as housing or commercial development than farming, it will be developed for housing/commercial use eventually. Farmers don’t live forever and as they retire, selling off their land sustains them, and their heirs, quite nicely, I am sure.

Stan


With the current price of farmland in my area, selling my very modest sized farm would make me a temporary millionaire. First off the IRS would take 35% of it for capital gains taxes. And then where would I go? I’m quite happy being able to do what I want and when I want without having to follow zoning regulations, city ordinances and so on. If I want to build a chicken house of any size, I can. I can have all the crowing roosters I want. I can let the sheep graze my yard without having anyone say or do anything.

Money isn’t everything. I’m certainly not rich or well off, but this is my home and I’m content to keep on keepin’ on as Joe Dirt said.

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Apr 6, 2023 21:49:05   #
OneShot1 Loc: Wichita, KS, USA
 
You're so right. In 30 years they'll be rusting hulks, too expensive to remove. Go nuke!

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Apr 6, 2023 21:57:01   #
Zooman 1
 
I do believe you can make more farmlands, look at the prairie states see much tall grass?? How much forest land has been changed to farmlands? There is no easy answer. I would rather see windmills than smoke stacks belching toxic gases into the air. I grew up in Kansas, where I used to hunt with my dad became a mall when I was in the army, now it is being torn down for some other development.

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Apr 6, 2023 22:33:39   #
Paul B. Loc: North Carolina
 
👍

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Apr 6, 2023 22:33:48   #
Boris77
 
Just grave markers for the 8 billion people crushing the Earth.
Boris

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Apr 6, 2023 22:36:33   #
Bret P Loc: California
 
dpullum wrote:
... Thorium-Molten salt reactors. Our industrial/government has ignored and blocked them for decades after they successfully ran for 5 years 1965-70.


Yes! Molten salt reactors are my favorite, not as dangerous as water-cooled. They had one at U of Chicago for research.

I like windmills and solar panels too, but they need to be placed where they do the least damage to farms and ecosystems, and where they are not intrusive eyesores, ideally. Whatever mankind builds is an eyesore to someone.

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Apr 6, 2023 22:58:54   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Bret P wrote:
Yes! Molten salt reactors are my favorite, not as dangerous as water-cooled. They had one at U of Chicago for research..

I believe the molten salt test reactor was at Oak Ridge.

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Apr 7, 2023 09:01:36   #
SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC
 
rlv567 wrote:
They already had ruined the Palm Springs area while I was living there, some years ago. And you have to be as powerful as Kennedy was to keep them from blocking your view! (or getting away with murder)

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City



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Apr 9, 2023 16:11:43   #
Sylvias Loc: North Yorkshire England
 
Very good shot John, they are popping up in the UK.

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