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Apr 6, 2023 11:27:01   #
FL Streetrodder
 
Got to generate electrical power to fuel all the "Green" EV Vehicles that seem to be the future of transportation in the good 'ol USA! We have a large solar farm right across the road from our subdivision where once there was an orange grove.

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Apr 6, 2023 11:37:08   #
Hereford Loc: Palm Coast, FL
 
Retired CPO wrote:
If we have fewer developments, that means fewer people which means we need fewer farms! I'm not sure your logic works!


The thing is, when you take farm land out of production for whatever reason -- let's say housing developments in this case. When population grows to the point of needing more farmland, you can just bulldoze those houses and put the land back into agriculture again. It is likely forever lost.

Now our agriculture industry is currently so prodigious, we may able to feed perhaps the whole world. Not a problem at the moment perhaps, but who knows what lies ahead. The present culture contains powerful forces that want to ban fertilizer, pesticides, and weed killers. That will take agricultural production down to levels we haven't seen for 75 years.

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Apr 6, 2023 11:40:43   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
FL Streetrodder wrote:
Got to generate electrical power to fuel all the "Green" EV Vehicles that seem to be the future of transportation in the good 'ol USA! We have a large solar farm right across the road from our subdivision where once there was an orange grove.


I know what orange orchards - orange blossoms and oranges - smell like; what is the aroma of solar farms, and how much Vitamin C do they produce???

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Apr 6, 2023 12:24:58   #
FL Streetrodder
 
rlv567 wrote:
I know what orange orchards - orange blossoms and oranges - smell like; what is the aroma of solar farms, and how much Vitamin C do they produce???

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


As far as aroma - only memories, vitamin C - now best found in tablet form! On the bright side of things, growers are now planting new groves to replace those depleted by old age or the Greening disease. New plantings are protected by individual tenting or spraying with a clay derived compound to protect from Greening. In my area of Central Florida, it seems that there is still hope to see the orange groves continue to be an important part of Florida agriculture.

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Apr 6, 2023 12:40:04   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
John Matthew the lion's share of "large scale farmers" have become no more that agents of Monsanto...
The "family farm" is sadly becoming a dream of days of future past...

"He who is free of sin let them cast the first stone"
I would suggest you read Rachel Carson's Silent Spring...
Monsanto's chemicals travel not only through the environment, but through food chains.

Monsanto's roles in agricultural? A Giant in biotechnology products, lobbying of government agencies, and roots as a chemical company. This is the company that manufactured insecticide DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange, and recombinant bovine growth hormone etc. And they aggressive sue farmers who save their seeds to plant again during the next growing season

John, maybe refocus your rage where it truly belongs...
Monsanto (Bill Gates is a major share holder in the aforementioned)

Words to live by: "Live simply so that others simply may live"

Centuries ago the Dutch reclaimed "Farmland" via solar i.e. Wind Power
Any inference that Farmland can't be "reclaimed" is blatantly false...

I lived in Eastern OR for a period where the deep ground water aquifers were tapped yielding vast acreages of fertile "Farmland" where before only desert plants could survive...

While working for Chevron in the Rocky Mountain Over-thrust region I was repeatedly flown to Houston for training seminars and out of the window of the jetliner I could see circular islands of emerald green farmland generated from the Ogallala Aquifer which is the largest aquifer in the United States and is a major aquifer of Texas underlying much of the High Plains region. The aquifer has a maximum thickness of 800 feet.

Yes I graduated with a Degree in Geology and Chemistry... However it was during the Oil Embargo of the 1970's and the petroleum industry made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

I strongly challenge the premise that farmland can't be generated! I've personally seen this at a HUGE scale.
Want to farm? Move to Eastern OR... it's a thriving business there and the USGS Geologist have mapped out huge deep ground water aquifers... Back in the day windmills dotted Kansas Nebraska farmlands and were viewed as a God Send to farmers of those regions.

All the best on your epic journey John Matthew...
Trust that you and your family thrive...
Cheers! Thomas

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Apr 6, 2023 13:09:13   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
jaymatt wrote:
The title is borrowed from a book by Alexander Cordell, written in 1959. Mr. Cordell probably had only an inkling of what was to come.

My photo was taken northeast of Elwood, Indiana. These things stretch for miles.


Some of the 3 F s . Fkg-Farce-Fraud. Besides being giant eyesore.

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Apr 6, 2023 13:13:58   #
Elias Amador
 
Retired CPO writes:
"If we have fewer developments, that means fewer people which means we need fewer farms!"
What follows is that the world needs far fewer people as it is grossly overpopulated. Humans are a destructive species, the fewer humans, the better for the world.

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Apr 6, 2023 13:18:08   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
And we're doing what we can to keep it that way. Why should Nevada be the dumping ground for the nuclear waste generated by the other states that produce the waste. Nevada doesn't produce any nuke waste.


If it’s a thousand feet underground out in the middle of nowhere in a salt cavern that haven’t moved for 10,000+ years, why do you care? The alternative is hundreds of tons of spent fuel stored above ground all over the US. This is a National issue that needs to be resolved, and that is the best site that’s been identified.

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Apr 6, 2023 13:26:52   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
jaymatt wrote:
The title is borrowed from a book by Alexander Cordell, written in 1959. Mr. Cordell probably had only an inkling of what was to come.

My photo was taken northeast of Elwood, Indiana. These things stretch for miles.


I like the shots, but completely disagree on the anti renewable energy sentiment - Folks can knock alternative power but my latest bill from FPL here in Florida shows that besides paying a reasonable rate my bill is reduced by $4.43 per 1,000 KWH, and FPL says they have been able to save Floridians over $14 BILLION since 2001 by integrating RENEWABLE ENERGY (SOLAR, ETC.) INTO OUR GRID, and strengthening the grid. From the negative comments concerning alternative renewable energy sources on this post it really does show how litttle the US public knows or understands renewable energy sources and utilization. Just as with photography, folks need to educate themselves to the reality of all these things prior to launching vollies of negativity. AND how many of you will actually accept Nuclear Power Plants in your backyard? I well remember the fervor over the Shoreham Nuke plant on Long Island.

If you own coal/oil stocks I understand you'd complain because who cares if oil companies make 10's of billions per quarter in profits, while everyone suffers from the greed? And coal?

Everyone have a fine day.
My $.02

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Apr 6, 2023 13:38:35   #
NikonF5guy
 
J-SPEIGHT wrote:


Good God, Mr. Speight...you should try the area between Southern Cal from say, the areas near Riverside to the Arizona border on the freeway, or about anywhere off I-84 and the areas from Multnomah County and the places into Hood River. These were just lovely places to see, lack of people notwithstanding. Do they even realize that the windmill farm blades wear out and they are now in huge areas where they haven't even determined how to deal with landfill in this mess? God Bless you and hope that somehow modern America gets their act together.

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Apr 6, 2023 13:45:13   #
bodiebill
 
jaymatt wrote:
The title is borrowed from a book by Alexander Cordell, written in 1959. Mr. Cordell probably had only an inkling of what was to come.

My photo was taken northeast of Elwood, Indiana. These things stretch for miles.


do you remember the photo of the drilling rig, which was present for only 60-90 days?
it drilled the well then was gone.
windmills last forever and kill the birds

EARTH FIRST.
THEN DRILL THE OTHER PLANETS LATER!

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Apr 6, 2023 14:39:24   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
TriX wrote:
If it’s a thousand feet underground out in the middle of nowhere in a salt cavern that haven’t moved for 10,000+ years, why do you care? The alternative is hundreds of tons of spent fuel stored above ground all over the US. This is a National issue that needs to be resolved, and that is the best site that’s been identified.



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Apr 6, 2023 14:50:20   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
rdemarco52 wrote:
Agreed. Very sad and not efficient.



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Apr 6, 2023 15:14:16   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Please note that I have stopped responding to comments on my post because they have gone far beyond the original intent behind posting the photo. Have at it, my friends.

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Apr 6, 2023 15:50:56   #
Mr. SONY Loc: LI, NY
 
mr spock wrote:
And collectively probably replace the energy put out by one good Diesel engine


Yep, but the diesel engine will be making electricity even when the wind isn't blowing.
Every video of wind turbine farms there is always as many as half, if not more of the turbines aren't spinning.
No spinning. No electricity.
And solar panels don't work at night.
To cloudy, too much dust in the air. They don't work so well.

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