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Apr 5, 2023 14:53:57   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The only features that matter to me are, lens quality and aperture accuracy, as well as accuracy in ISO and shutter settings. The rest is fluff. YMMV.
--Bob
ds927 wrote:
I have a Canon 80D but am thinking of upgrading. I mainly take pictures of family activities - sports, school events, vacations, etc and some are low light or far distance. I'm struggling with what features really would be best. I have crop now but should I stay with that or does full frame really give me better options? I think if I'm buying new I should venture into the mirrorless cameras. While my old lenses are not bad, they aren't top of the line either, so I'm open to something different. Any recommendations?
I have a Canon 80D but am thinking of upgrading. ... (show quote)

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Apr 5, 2023 15:42:14   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
ds927 wrote:
I have a Canon 80D but am thinking of upgrading. I mainly take pictures of family activities - sports, school events, vacations, etc and some are low light or far distance. I'm struggling with what features really would be best. I have crop now but should I stay with that or does full frame really give me better options? I think if I'm buying new I should venture into the mirrorless cameras. While my old lenses are not bad, they aren't top of the line either, so I'm open to something different. Any recommendations?
I have a Canon 80D but am thinking of upgrading. ... (show quote)


Why do you want a new camera? Are you not happy with your current images? What improvements are you looking for? As has been suggested, you may get more bang for your buck with a new lens.

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Apr 5, 2023 15:44:14   #
SIMIBILL
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Nothing about your 24MP advanced EOS model is due for replacement nor upgrade. If shooting sports, look at the focal length of your lens(es) and the questions of (a) indoor / outdoor and (b) distance. Do you need a wider aperture for indoors? Do you need a longer focal length for center-field action? Removing the 1.6x crop factor via full-frame will surely cause issues. Spend your money on what is impactful. Replacing an EOS 80D is not one of them.

I also have an 80 D. I shoot events for my Elks Lodge, and Landscapes, Seascapes, Sunsets, Sea Mamals, Birds, etc. I live in Santa Barbara, California, so there is an endless variety to shoot outdoors. Also indoors at Elks events, etc.
What is your opinion of giving in to my burning desire to buy an R5 and 100-400 2.8 Canon lens?

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Apr 5, 2023 17:20:19   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
SIMIBILL wrote:
I also have an 80 D. I shoot events for my Elks Lodge, and Landscapes, Seascapes, Sunsets, Sea Mamals, Birds, etc. I live in Santa Barbara, California, so there is an endless variety to shoot outdoors. Also indoors at Elks events, etc.
What is your opinion of giving in to my burning desire to buy an R5 and 100-400 2.8 Canon lens?


The EOS R5 has redefined the full-frame mirrorless market, a 45MP wonder. Alas, there are no 100-400mm f/2.8 lenses. Possibly, you mean the redesigned 70-200 f/2.8 zoom or the 100-500 variable aperture zoom?

That's a lot of money to invest into Canon's best higher pixel-density full-frame camera, and with the 100-500L zoom, a premier kit for all shooting situations and especially high-action wildlife.

In this thread, or another recent and similar, the issue was raise of your computing power, as these 45MP files will double what you're processing now from the EOS 80D.

All that said, your EOS 80D is no slouch and you very likely have not exhausted this camera for all the various topics you've listed. If you have an EF or 3rd-party lens that already puts you at 400mm or longer, there's no valid reason to jump from 'great' to 'the best'. Unless, this next camera really is intended to be your last, like 12+ years minimum. Your EOS 80D should deliver a full 10-years shooting life, at an industry standard 24MP resolution. You can save a lot of money looking closer at your EF / EF-S lenses and seeing where / if updates are needed to maximize the 80D body for its full useful life.

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Apr 5, 2023 19:27:42   #
josquin1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
ds927 wrote:
I have a Canon 80D but am thinking of upgrading. I mainly take pictures of family activities - sports, school events, vacations, etc and some are low light or far distance. I'm struggling with what features really would be best. I have crop now but should I stay with that or does full frame really give me better options? I think if I'm buying new I should venture into the mirrorless cameras. While my old lenses are not bad, they aren't top of the line either, so I'm open to something different. Any recommendations?
I have a Canon 80D but am thinking of upgrading. ... (show quote)


I've owned both Crop and full frame cameras and I have not really seen a difference in the quality of the images. The 80D is a wonderful camera.

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Apr 5, 2023 21:35:23   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Now, just do you want to change? Are you dissatisfied with the results you are getting? If so, would it be the body or the lenses? What cameras have you discovered would solve these problems?

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Apr 5, 2023 22:55:23   #
SIMIBILL
 
The lens I meant is the Canon 100-400 4.5-5.6 L lens.
I am almost 79 years old and have had the 80D for 4 years or more. If I buy a new camera it will most likely be my last one. The lens I use most now is a Tamron 18-400. Mediocre, but good for a non-canon lens. Do you think
a Canon, L lens will make a significant difference on the 80D?

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Apr 6, 2023 07:32:02   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
SIMIBILL wrote:
The lens I meant is the Canon 100-400 4.5-5.6 L lens.
I am almost 79 years old and have had the 80D for 4 years or more. If I buy a new camera it will most likely be my last one. The lens I use most now is a Tamron 18-400. Mediocre, but good for a non-canon lens. Do you think
a Canon, L lens will make a significant difference on the 80D?


Most Canon L-series lenses are large and heavy, built with metal for 'forever' usage in all possible situations. They feature great optics too, but many options exist for excellent optics without the same heavy build. Only you can decide if the added weight / size / cost is worth changing away from the Tamron. That's the type of investigation you can achieve from an outfit like LensRentals.com, say for a week-long rental and shooting.

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Apr 6, 2023 08:21:27   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
Along this upgrading theme, I’m wondering if Canon users who’ve used both, find that the 5DIV has any significant advantage over the 5DIII.

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Apr 6, 2023 08:24:50   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
raymondh wrote:
Along this upgrading theme, I’m wondering if Canon users who’ve used both, find that the 5DIV has any significant advantage over the 5DIII.


It adds more pixels resolution, not much else. The 5DIV AF algorithms pick-up the next round of changes that went into the 1DXIII, but the camera was already great with the 5DIII / 1DXII capabilities. There's a lot more 'gain' in the EOS R5, adding eye tracking into the AF capabilities, along with another large jump in pixels, and IBIS.

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