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Mar 10, 2023 22:38:02   #
radiojohn
 
When OLED screens of all types came out, there was initially talk of the "organic" compounds in them reducing their lifepan. Has this happened?

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Mar 10, 2023 22:55:29   #
JoeBiker Loc: homebase: Houston, TX
 
OLEDs do get dimmer the longer they are on. They have improved it quite a bit since they first came out, but it is still an issue. It is similar to CRTs (and Plasma, IIRC) having an image burned on the the screen if they were left on one image too long. Most computer and TV systems these days use "screen saver" methodologies to prevent one image from being in the same place for too long. This should extend the usable life of the OLED systems.

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Mar 11, 2023 00:49:01   #
User ID
 
radiojohn wrote:
When OLED screens of all types came out, there was initially talk of the "organic" compounds in them reducing their lifepan. Has this happened?

An organic compound is any compound that includes carbon atoms. What is the half life of anthracite ? How about crude oil ? Carbon dioxide ? Redwood ? DNA ?

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Mar 11, 2023 05:19:15   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
User ID wrote:
An organic compound is any compound that includes carbon atoms. What is the half life of anthracite ? How about crude oil ? Carbon dioxide ? Redwood ? DNA ?


You forgot diamonds.

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Mar 11, 2023 08:17:12   #
radiojohn
 
My question was based on first reports on the new product. Dyes are also carbon based and fade. So far, nobody has reported any experiences with these screens to confirm or deny the early claims.

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Mar 11, 2023 08:25:53   #
JoeBiker Loc: homebase: Houston, TX
 
FYI, even "tradition" LEDs get dimmer the longer they are powered on, but it is much slower. Something in the order of 10% after 1000-5000 hours (and it depends on how bright the LEDs are being operated, because they are pulse width modulated).

I don't remember what OLEDs were initially, and don't know what they are claiming that they have improved it to now.

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Mar 11, 2023 08:59:32   #
radiojohn
 
I guess my point is, for those of us with limited means who do not buy a new camera every three years, how this compares with an old-fashioned DSLR with mirror, etc. I favor EVFs over back screens and would be unhappy if the EVF in my $1,500 camera body began to fail after a few years. As they have been on the market for some time now, I was wondering if anyone has experienced such a failure in their own gear.

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Mar 11, 2023 09:05:52   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Radiojohn: You probably wouldn’t notice a small decrease in brightness over time.

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Mar 11, 2023 09:34:42   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
melismus wrote:
You forgot diamonds.


Diamonds are forever

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Mar 11, 2023 10:31:56   #
JoeBiker Loc: homebase: Houston, TX
 
Toment wrote:
Radiojohn: You probably wouldn’t notice a small decrease in brightness over time.


I agree. Your viewfinder probably isn't on for hours at a time like a TV or computer is.

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Mar 11, 2023 10:56:03   #
User ID
 
melismus wrote:
You forgot diamonds.

OMFG ... with extra cheeze.
Thank you. How could I ?!?
Nice catch.

Not sure diamonds are a compound.
Arent they pure crystaline carbon ?
Either way, they have no "half life" measure, being essentially eternal.


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Mar 11, 2023 11:14:07   #
Arend Loc: Holland
 
User ID wrote:
An organic compound is any compound that includes carbon atoms. What is the half life of anthracite ? How about crude oil ? Carbon dioxide ? Redwood ? DNA ?


Your steak is also an organic compound and so are you😜

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Mar 11, 2023 13:37:47   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
radiojohn wrote:
When OLED screens of all types came out, there was initially talk of the "organic" compounds in them reducing their lifepan. Has this happened?


By the time the "half life" is reached a new technology will be out to leapfrog OLED by a lot. Today's electronics will not last forever especially for LCD screen technology which fades and also pixels die off gradually...my six year old laptop just recently exhibited a dead pixel - I thought at first it was dirt on the screen but one of my pixels died!

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Mar 11, 2023 19:24:11   #
JonathanChemE
 
User ID wrote:
An organic compound is any compound that includes carbon atoms. What is the half life of anthracite ? How about crude oil ? Carbon dioxide ? Redwood ? DNA ?


An organic compound has both carbon AND hydrogen. Take it from the chemical engineer

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Mar 11, 2023 20:29:54   #
User ID
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
By the time the "half life" is reached a new technology will be out to leapfrog OLED by a lot. Today's electronics will not last forever especially for LCD screen technology which fades and also pixels die off gradually...my six year old laptop just recently exhibited a dead pixel - I thought at first it was dirt on the screen but one of my pixels died!

Sincerest condolences. I saw some itty bitty little coffins on Amazon. With free shipping too !

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