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Feb 28, 2023 08:57:05   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
billnikon wrote:
Thank goodness. I was really worried, haven't slept a wink.


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Feb 28, 2023 09:27:16   #
mg1962
 
I still use my 4 x 5 camera, can the iPhone match the image quality and the piece of mind I get while composing the photo?

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Feb 28, 2023 09:38:12   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Nigel7 wrote:
I am still using Canon DSLRs and also have the Samsung S22 Ultra mobile phone.

I've recently returned from 5 weeks in New Zealand photographing scenery, waterfalls, animals, museums, watersports etc. and my 18 month old granddaughter. Some subjects were taken on the phone, some on a camera, and some on both.

The phone photos looked stunning on the phone screen, much better than on the camera screens, which are, of course, much smaller. However, on my return home, and selecting keepers and discards, where both were used for the same subject the cameras (with their "L" lenses) were definitely the keepers.

Now I have been a photographic society member for over 40 years and instinctively I do look for the best possible quality, even for my holiday photos which will probably never be entered in a competition. So I admit to being fussy and understand those who feel that phone photos are getting good enough to satisfy many people. But for now they remain a very good second best. I believe they always will, as the parallel technologies both continue improving.

Finally, even on the best mobile phones, with their "Pro" settings, the degree of personal input away from the auto settings falls far short of a DSLR or Mirrorless camera.
I am still using Canon DSLRs and also have the Sam... (show quote)


Hey Nigel, this guy is suggesting you should dump that crappy Canon camera and get yourself a cell phone LOL

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Feb 28, 2023 09:41:12   #
Niklon Loc: Athens, Ga
 
I am currently judging a state high school TSA (Technology Student Association) photography competition. Each student submits 5 photographs on a general theme and each photo must include camera make/model and basic metadata. As I begin to judge each students entry I first quickly scan the photos. Without exception, at a glance I can tell when 90+% of them were taken with a cell phone. Some of the entries are truly exceptional and I would have been proud to have taken any of them but of the hundreds I have examined so far not one was from a phone. Several phone shots are very well composed incorporating nice leading lines or use of the rule of thirds but they are almost always cropped and lose resolution/get noisy/blur/etc.

In fairness, I expect that the students using phones are not as dedicated to photography as the are to getting a trip to Athens.

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Feb 28, 2023 10:02:07   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Make a quality 8x10 print of each and view them from 2 to 3 feet. Can you see any difference?

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Feb 28, 2023 10:11:05   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
cyclespeed wrote:
My club had a January challenge wherein people would post the same composition, or as close as that human can do it, one taken by their smartphones and the other with their best digital camera.
Some were lower cost cameras and older iPhones etc. but several sets had the latest from Google and Apple. These were up against Sony and Fuji full frame mirrorless.
We could choose one or the other or choose " too close to call"
The shots taken in low light had the smartphones almost 2 to 1. Granted no flash was used on any.
The shots where a greater DoF was expected the cameras had it 1.5 to 1.
Others had too close to call as the most frequently made choice.
We all know the advantage of the smartphones starting with the old adage the best camera is the one you have with you as well as its multipurpose function such as texting and even talking.
So if you have a similar experience I'd love to read your reply. If you would like to speculate could you kindly post your own topic.
Thanks
My club had a January challenge wherein people wou... (show quote)


No.

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Feb 28, 2023 10:14:54   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Thinking ahead, I’m anticipating increased inventory at the likes at KEH and MPB. Lowered demand and more of it, I can grow my kit cheaper. And more importantly, I’ll no longer feel a sense of guilt if my wife, after I’m gone, sells everything for what I told her I paid for it.

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Feb 28, 2023 10:30:55   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Toment wrote:
All I can say, is that when you look from 8 inches on your phone or pad it looks great but when you zoom in there’s nothing.


In a Museum do you put your nose to the canvas and debate brush strokes ? Each format has its best uses...Smartphone technology is just moving a little faster and has a MUCH larger market.

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Feb 28, 2023 10:56:30   #
alvin3232 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Simple
At the end of the day, we all choose what works best for each person. Cellphone, camera, etc.

Al

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Feb 28, 2023 10:58:22   #
markwilliam1
 
billnikon wrote:
The only problem with going all in on a smartphone is that I will no longer get the following.

Damn Bill! That says it All! Awesome photographs!

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Feb 28, 2023 11:10:47   #
markwilliam1
 
Niklon wrote:
I am currently judging a state high school TSA (Technology Student Association) photography competition. Each student submits 5 photographs on a general theme and each photo must include camera make/model and basic metadata. As I begin to judge each students entry I first quickly scan the photos. Without exception, at a glance I can tell when 90+% of them were taken with a cell phone. Some of the entries are truly exceptional and I would have been proud to have taken any of them but of the hundreds I have examined so far not one was from a phone. Several phone shots are very well composed incorporating nice leading lines or use of the rule of thirds but they are almost always cropped and lose resolution/get noisy/blur/etc.

In fairness, I expect that the students using phones are not as dedicated to photography as the are to getting a trip to Athens.
I am currently judging a state high school TSA (Te... (show quote)

Wow! My how do you do that? At a glance even 90%! Sure wouldn’t want you judging any of my photos Lol. Your bias is Amazing! Perhaps some of your students cannot afford a fancy Real camera but they obviously enjoy photography.

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Feb 28, 2023 11:40:50   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
My cell phone works for DIY shots when I have to work out where something went, and for internet sales. I wouldn't dream of using it for any shots to share on forums or print out...

Even if the phone images where every bit as good, I don't enjoy taking images with point & shoot type cameras & phones are even worse. Even my (retired) 2008 vintage mirrorless gives me more control.

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Feb 28, 2023 11:44:53   #
gwilliams6
 
BebuLamar wrote:
My problem is that I don't have any mirrorless equipment what should I do???


Smartphones have mirrorless cameras, the vast majority of them worldwide are made by Sony, including the ones in iPhones. . If you have a smartphone, you have a mirrorless camera.

Cheers and best to you.

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Feb 28, 2023 11:51:59   #
BebuLamar
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Smartphones have mirrorless cameras, the vast majority of them worldwide are made by Sony, including the ones in iPhones. . If you have a smartphone, you have a mirrorless camera.

Cheers and best to you.


But I don't have it either. So I can't sell.

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Feb 28, 2023 11:58:27   #
Canisdirus
 
Galaxy S21 Ultra By Samsung has an 108MP sensor...with 10x optical zoom built in...plus a PLETHORA of other camera features.

Is it going to replace FF and MF...nope...not...yet.

Everyone else...well...cellphones are surpassing some of you.

This cellphone alone will outcrop the living heck out of a Oly 20mp micro camera.

Not a replacement...yet.

But the amount of tech and the RATE of advancement...look out...it's a jauggernaut...with no end in sight.

It's the rate of advancement...accelerating past regular cameras...it's a different market...different players...except for Sony (of course).

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