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Feb 26, 2023 09:58:40   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
Having changed a garage door spring once, I call someone when necessary. Those things can do a lot of damage to the home owner.

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Feb 26, 2023 10:00:42   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Just be thankful it's not one of the springs that is wound around a shaft above the door usually there are two and they have to tensioned after installing, takes two bars that fit the holes in the drum and a damned sturdy ladder!!


I had one of those break 4-5 years ago, sounded like an explosion in the garage. Damaged the garage door to the point it had to be replaced. I'm glad I wasn't in the garage when it let go.

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Feb 26, 2023 10:04:03   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Red6 wrote:
I have a funny story about a garage door and springs. Years ago when I owned my first home, one of my garage door springs had broken. Not knowing much about garage doors I went to Lowe's and looked at the springs and found that the springs have to be matched to the weight of the garage door. So back home I go to try to figure out how much the door weighs. It was an old wooden door and had no info labels or placards. But it was a heavy door.

I had an idea. I latched the door open using the garage door opener's built-in latch. Then I borrowed our bathroom scales and set them right where the door would rest on it and give me more or less what the door weighed. Not thinking the whole process through, I pulled the release rope to lower the garage door down on the scale. Except, since one of the springs had broken there was nothing to slow down the door's drop. The door slammed down onto the scales sending pieces of the bathroom scales flying. The scales were actually bent in a U shape where the door had hit them. To say I was shocked would be an understatement.

Luckily, one of the guys at Lowe's who had sold quite a few springs recommended a spring based on the door measurements and the fact that it was an older wood door. The new spring worked great.

I also had an experience with one of the large round rotating springs located directly above the garage door in another house I owned. I will not go into this incident other than to say there was blood involved and I am lucky to still have all my fingers. There is a LOT of energy stored in those springs. I would HIGHLY recommend you let the professionals service these. They can be hazardous to your health.

I rent now and you are correct, it is comforting to know I do not have to be fixing things constantly. If something goes wrong, call management.
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The way landlords have been raising rents around here, many folks have been priced out of apartments and homes they’ve lived in for years. Investors pay too much for a property and have to raise the rents to make their financials work.

Stan

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Feb 26, 2023 12:03:24   #
Sunrisepano Loc: West Sub of Chicago
 
Those springs can pack a punch. A manufacturing company I worked at a lifetime ago had a large garage door that wasn't functioning properly. It was wide and tall enough for a truck to fit through. One of the line mechanics decided he would fix it. He started by removing the bolts holding the cable to the bottom corner of the door. The last bolt hit him SMD of his forehead. The headache lasted for days.

I had to replace a torsion spring for the garage of the house we currently own. I researched and studied what was involved and decided to tackle the job myself. The spring is precisely sized for the weight and lift height of the door. The torsion is introduced through the winding of a steel wheel in the center of the rod using two solid steel rods to "walk" the torsion into the spring using a precise number of turns. I managed to complete the job without incident.

I was told to oil the springs occasionally using old motor oil to get them to last longer. That was about 17 years ago. I recommend the oiling provided you can SAFELY climb a ladder to reach the springs.

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Feb 26, 2023 12:33:09   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Sunrisepano wrote:
Those springs can pack a punch. A manufacturing company I worked at a lifetime ago had a large garage door that wasn't functioning properly. It was wide and tall enough for a truck to fit through. One of the line mechanics decided he would fix it. He started by removing the bolts holding the cable to the bottom corner of the door. The last bolt hit him SMD of his forehead. The headache lasted for days.

I had to replace a torsion spring for the garage of the house we currently own. I researched and studied what was involved and decided to tackle the job myself. The spring is precisely sized for the weight and lift height of the door. The torsion is introduced through the winding of a steel wheel in the center of the rod using two solid steel rods to "walk" the torsion into the spring using a precise number of turns. I managed to complete the job without incident.

I was told to oil the springs occasionally using old motor oil to get them to last longer. That was about 17 years ago. I recommend the oiling provided you can SAFELY climb a ladder to reach the springs.
Those springs can pack a punch. A manufacturing co... (show quote)


I have worked on doors 16ft x 16ft or taller and with double torsion springs many times and I can guarantee the springs had not been oiled since the had been placed in service, and were well over 30 yrs old. and oiling tension springs just makes a mess.
And why anyone recommends used motor oil to lubricate anything baffles the hell out of me, It's full of all kinds of impurities!!

I just checked for garage door springs on the internet < it looks like to can get any type you need, dozens of places selling them.

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Feb 26, 2023 13:50:03   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I was going out to clear the snow off my car, but the garage door wouldn't open. One of the springs had broken. That was good timing because my son had to leave for work, but he wouldn't have been able to lift the door by himself. Between the two of us we got the door raised, and I blocked it open. I replaced the other spring a couple of years ago, so I know the procedure. I don't know why I pressed the button to open the door, but it's good I did. If I had cleared my car and taken off, he would have called me an hour later when he couldn't get his car out.

When you own a house, it's always something. I know people who sold their houses and are now renting. They said it's like being on vacation.
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Should of replaced both at the same time. I live in a condo for 20 years & getting ready to sell & will probably buy a house with some property. I'll miss the free time that I had when I'm cutting the grass etc. You have one of those ole heavy wooden garage doors?

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Feb 26, 2023 13:51:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jackm1943 wrote:
I had one of those break 4-5 years ago, sounded like an explosion in the garage. Damaged the garage door to the point it had to be replaced. I'm glad I wasn't in the garage when it let go.


Wow!

I removed all the parts, and the new spring is in place. Now it's time for the pulleys.

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Feb 26, 2023 13:51:59   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Just be thankful it's not one of the springs that is wound around a shaft above the door usually there are two and they have to tensioned after installing, takes two bars that fit the holes in the drum and a damned sturdy ladder!!


Manglesphoto, You are ever so right about that. I came close to meeting my maker when I tried to tighten the wind-up spring. I was on the ladder and twisting with the two bars when one of them slipped out. The one that was left in bent my wrist back forcing me to let go of the bar and it zinged past my head like a bullet before it smashed into the far wall of the garage. I changed my underwear and called a fellow to install a new garage door.

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Feb 26, 2023 13:54:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I have worked on doors 16ft x 16ft or taller and with double torsion springs many times and I can guarantee the springs had not been oiled since the had been placed in service, and were well over 30 yrs old. and oiling tension springs just makes a mess.
And why anyone recommends used motor oil to lubricate anything baffles the hell out of me, It's full of all kinds of impurities!!

I just checked for garage door springs on the internet < it looks like to can get any type you need, dozens of places selling them.
I have worked on doors 16ft x 16ft or taller and ... (show quote)


I bought a pair when the other one broke, and I have the other half of that pair hanging there now.

I watch Steve's Small Engine Saloon. He and his wife did thirty days of questions. Someone asked if you can use engine drain in place of bar oil. I had to laugh.

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Feb 26, 2023 13:58:50   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Manglesphoto, You are ever so right about that. I came close to meeting my maker when I tried to tighten the wind-up spring. I was on the ladder and twisting with the two bars when one of them slipped out. The one that was left in bent my wrist back forcing me to let go of the bar and it zinged past my head like a bullet before it smashed into the far wall of the garage. I changed my underwear and called a fellow to install a new garage door.


I guess I won't readjust that torsion spring.

It would probably be possible to add extension springs rather than tightening the torsion springs. Maybe that would be a fail-safe.

I didn't see anything online about using both kinds of springs. "Extension springs may be the most common but most experts prefer torsion springs. Torsion springs have a longer lifespan than extension springs ..."

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Feb 26, 2023 16:14:48   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I guess I won't readjust that torsion spring.

It would probably be possible to add extension springs rather than tightening the torsion springs. Maybe that would be a fail-safe.

I didn't see anything online about using both kinds of springs. "Extension springs may be the most common but most experts prefer torsion springs. Torsion springs have a longer lifespan than extension springs ..."


You shouldn't have to adjust the spring more than once.

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Feb 26, 2023 17:15:52   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Sunrisepano wrote:
Those springs can pack a punch. A manufacturing company I worked at a lifetime ago had a large garage door that wasn't functioning properly. It was wide and tall enough for a truck to fit through. One of the line mechanics decided he would fix it. He started by removing the bolts holding the cable to the bottom corner of the door. The last bolt hit him SMD of his forehead. The headache lasted for days.

I had to replace a torsion spring for the garage of the house we currently own. I researched and studied what was involved and decided to tackle the job myself. The spring is precisely sized for the weight and lift height of the door. The torsion is introduced through the winding of a steel wheel in the center of the rod using two solid steel rods to "walk" the torsion into the spring using a precise number of turns. I managed to complete the job without incident.

I was told to oil the springs occasionally using old motor oil to get them to last longer. That was about 17 years ago. I recommend the oiling provided you can SAFELY climb a ladder to reach the springs.
Those springs can pack a punch. A manufacturing co... (show quote)


Wow, I admire you for that. I watched the "pros" replace mine and there is no way in hell I would try it myself.

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Feb 26, 2023 19:27:27   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Longshadow wrote:
But they are MUCH safer when they break!
They won't go flying all over the garage like springs without safety cables.


Nope, but the noise will scare the h-e-ll out of you. Happened one time in my Dads garage and we were both in there.


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Feb 26, 2023 21:16:03   #
Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI
 
I've had two springs (roller type over the door) break. Both times, the door was down. It sounded like someone had bombed the front of the house. Our door is extremely heavy because it is insulated. Both of us can't lift it. Fortunately, my husband could work from home and I was already retired. The garage door people came right over and replaced the springs. Things were back to work in quick order.

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Feb 26, 2023 22:15:32   #
SunBeach1962 Loc: Syrscuse, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That must have been quite a shock when that door came crashing down.

When I bought the pair of springs, I matched the color with the color on the old springs. It's 17° now, so the door will have to stay open for a while.


I had a torsion bar spring break a couple weeks ago and I know from experience and being 70 years old there’s no way I was in attempt to replace it myself called the company that installed the door opener for me a couple years ago they couldn’t get to me for three days

Call the company that install the door 30+ years ago they were here with in a half an hour

Replaced both springs, because I knew of one broke, was just a matter of time before the other broke



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