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Feb 26, 2023 10:43:25   #
ScottWardwell Loc: Maine
 
Last weekend we all engaged in a discussion of the Topaz AI products and how it was my first foray into using them.
This is what I consider my first successful use of Sharpen AI.
The aircraft is a P-51 Mustang making an inverted fly-by at the Brunswick Air Show in 2015.
There was enough motion blur to make this a good test subject including the stars on the wing and fuselage having almost 10 points. It was most visible at 300% magnification in Photoshop.

P-51 - TOPAZ SHARPEN AI
P-51 - TOPAZ SHARPEN AI...
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P-51 - Original Capture
P-51 - Original Capture...
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Feb 26, 2023 11:02:18   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
I was using Sharpen AI on a half dozen wildlife photos yesterday. I was pleased with the prints.

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Feb 26, 2023 11:26:23   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
Last weekend we all engaged in a discussion of the Topaz AI products and how it was my first foray into using them.
This is what I consider my first successful use of Sharpen AI.
The aircraft is a P-51 Mustang making an inverted fly-by at the Brunswick Air Show in 2015.
There was enough motion blur to make this a good test subject including the stars on the wing and fuselage having almost 10 points. It was most visible at 300% magnification in Photoshop.


For colors of a plane against a clear blue sky, the edit is wonderful. But, look at what happened to all the artifacts in the sky. I wouldn't yet mark this one up as a 'success'. And the ghosting around the wing-tips and tail. Software really can't make up for a failed capture. Didn't you shoot in a burst? Although this might be the perfect viewing angle of the pass, wasn't there a better original version of all the possible versions?

Regarding magnification, at best, your viewing audience, or the physical print, will never be more than 1:1, aka 100% zoom. Looking at pixels beyond the 1-pixel to 1-pixel view on your monitor, is relevant only when trying to PhotoShop edit at the pixel-level; something that can be done, but rarely should or needs to be done.

So, if you wanted to spend still more time and more effort on an image that seems like a 1-second <delete> decision during culling, you've got more work to complete on the details across the entire frame.

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Feb 26, 2023 12:14:16   #
ScottWardwell Loc: Maine
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
For colors of a plane against a clear blue sky, the edit is wonderful. But, look at what happened to all the artifacts in the sky. I wouldn't yet mark this one up as a 'success'. And the ghosting around the wing-tips and tail. Software really can't make up for a failed capture. Didn't you shoot in a burst? Although this might be the perfect viewing angle of the pass, wasn't there a better original version of all the possible versions?

Regarding magnification, at best, your viewing audience, or the physical print, will never be more than 1:1, aka 100% zoom. Looking at pixels beyond the 1-pixel to 1-pixel view on your monitor, is relevant only when trying to PhotoShop edit at the pixel-level; something that can be done, but rarely should or needs to be done.

So, if you wanted to spend still more time and more effort on an image that seems like a 1-second <delete> decision during culling, you've got more work to complete on the details across the entire frame.
For colors of a plane against a clear blue sky, th... (show quote)


Well Paul, what a surprise. But we both know you are not here to ask questions honestly and to impart some sage wisdom since that would pre-suppose humility; and not a pathology. But to show the world just how much of a rhetorical delusional jackass you have become and how easy it is to hijack a thread.
I quess yesterday wasn't enough for you? Congratulations on turning UHH even more to the dark side.
This site has become a rolling dumpster fire and is not worth one more minute of my time.
I have an art show to prep for and you are not worth a second thought.
Enjoy your reign Beelzebub.

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Feb 26, 2023 12:27:50   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
Well Paul, what a surprise. But we both know you are not here to ask questions honestly and to impart some sage wisdom since that would pre-suppose humility; and not a pathology. But to show the world just how much of a rhetorical delusional jackass you have become and how easy it is to hijack a thread.
I quess yesterday wasn't enough for you? Congratulations on turning UHH even more to the dark side.
This site has become a rolling dumpster fire and is not worth one more minute of my time.
I have an art show to prep for and you are not worth a second thought.
Enjoy your reign Beelzebub.
Well Paul, what a surprise. But we both know you ... (show quote)


Oh well ...

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Feb 26, 2023 12:47:12   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
Last weekend we all engaged in a discussion of the Topaz AI products and how it was my first foray into using them.
This is what I consider my first successful use of Sharpen AI.
The aircraft is a P-51 Mustang making an inverted fly-by at the Brunswick Air Show in 2015.
There was enough motion blur to make this a good test subject including the stars on the wing and fuselage having almost 10 points. It was most visible at 300% magnification in Photoshop.


I like your image and the reminder of flying upside down. If there are artifacts, I don't see them or care.

I used to get to do that frequently in an airplane called the "Glasair III".

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Feb 26, 2023 12:57:37   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Ok, so you two need to get a room, preferably in the gallery, where this belongs.

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Feb 26, 2023 13:06:27   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
As to capture and 'correction'...

Motion blur shows a lack of stability (lateral) as well as a capture speed that is too low (linear). You mentioned the low capture speed, but not the stability issue.
WB is off.
Correction seems to have suffered from a sky replacement. There is no sky variation in the original image.

That is not worthy of anything even as a PP test, sorry.

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Feb 26, 2023 13:58:11   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
Last weekend we all engaged in a discussion of the Topaz AI products and how it was my first foray into using them.
This is what I consider my first successful use of Sharpen AI.
The aircraft is a P-51 Mustang making an inverted fly-by at the Brunswick Air Show in 2015.
There was enough motion blur to make this a good test subject including the stars on the wing and fuselage having almost 10 points. It was most visible at 300% magnification in Photoshop.


I think Topaz has given you a good starting point with this image. The saturation of the plane is a bit strong and for those who don't like the sky keep in mind that Topaz will let you select just the plane for sharpening, leaving the sky as it was in the original image. In this case, the original sky (unsharpened) shouldn't be an issue.

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Feb 26, 2023 19:22:51   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
There is a weird pattern in the blue sky of the Topaz Sharpen AI version of this image. At first I thought it was "banding", but that doesn't show up as equally spaced "dashes". I don't know what caused it, but I think it's what Paul was referring to.

This pattern is not in the original version. I also tried to replicate it from the original image by boosting sharpness, contrast and saturation in Photoshop, but it didn't show up then either.

Here's a B&W conversion done to the Topaz Sharpen AI version to bring out the pattern. If you look closely you'll see this pattern in the color version too.


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Feb 27, 2023 06:08:12   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
Last weekend we all engaged in a discussion of the Topaz AI products and how it was my first foray into using them.
This is what I consider my first successful use of Sharpen AI.
The aircraft is a P-51 Mustang making an inverted fly-by at the Brunswick Air Show in 2015.
There was enough motion blur to make this a good test subject including the stars on the wing and fuselage having almost 10 points. It was most visible at 300% magnification in Photoshop.


Bid difference, very beautiful aircraft.


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Feb 27, 2023 07:21:42   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
Last weekend we all engaged in a discussion of the Topaz AI products and how it was my first foray into using them.
This is what I consider my first successful use of Sharpen AI.
The aircraft is a P-51 Mustang making an inverted fly-by at the Brunswick Air Show in 2015.
There was enough motion blur to make this a good test subject including the stars on the wing and fuselage having almost 10 points. It was most visible at 300% magnification in Photoshop.



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Feb 27, 2023 10:09:03   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Great job, Scott.

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Feb 27, 2023 10:31:10   #
Toby
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
Last weekend we all engaged in a discussion of the Topaz AI products and how it was my first foray into using them.
This is what I consider my first successful use of Sharpen AI.
The aircraft is a P-51 Mustang making an inverted fly-by at the Brunswick Air Show in 2015.
There was enough motion blur to make this a good test subject including the stars on the wing and fuselage having almost 10 points. It was most visible at 300% magnification in Photoshop.


Scott don't get discouraged with all of the negative babble. I can see a great improvement.

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Feb 28, 2023 13:53:19   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 

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