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Feb 13, 2023 14:46:21   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
User ID wrote:
Maybe the report is real or maybe its not. With useless click bait, issues of factuality are moot.

As to your question of what do I think ? I think that if a toadally AI creation actually won a photo competition then that is truly terrific and is the proper outcome for that competition (or any similar contest).

Acoarst you're toadally correct.

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Feb 13, 2023 14:47:53   #
jack schade Loc: La Pine Oregon
 
AI is a totally different form of art. If it can be called art. The human factor is what makes art for me.

jack

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Feb 13, 2023 14:49:42   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
RonDavis wrote:
Next….AI will be the Judges.

Soon (like sooner than today) between AI artists and judges, AI will also be the teachers.

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Feb 13, 2023 15:02:25   #
User ID
 
Delderby wrote:
Please remind yourself what the OP said "AI image fools judges and wins photography competition. What do you think about IA - only generated images and their place in the photo world" ? Well - what do YOU think? It seems that you believe ANY image is a photograph.

Ive already posted what you ask, so no need to repeat whats already out there.

Feel free to reciprocally feel that my own view of AI photo composites, opposite of yours, is in your view sad.

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Feb 13, 2023 15:28:38   #
User ID
 
jack schade wrote:
AI is a totally different form of art. If it can be called art. The human factor is what makes art for me.

jack

True enough. Certainly AI imagery can be greatly author influenced or very hands-off. Soon the day will come that "author influenced" upgrades to "author directed", and that further favors the human factor.

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Feb 13, 2023 15:34:50   #
User ID
 
jlg1000 wrote:
My grandpa said that phones were an abomination and that people would soon return to writing letters.

His father said that cars were an abomination and that people would soon return to riding horses.

Do you see a pattern here?

Horses sing phones ?

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Feb 13, 2023 15:37:04   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
User ID wrote:
Horses sing phones ?


No... Horses phone home

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Feb 13, 2023 16:00:30   #
User ID
 
radiojohn wrote:
There is the difference between the joy of looking at an interesting image and making one yourself. "I made that" will not soon go away.

If I instigate an AI image then it is mine, I own it, and if need be I will copyright it. I created it.

We regularly see hogsters asking advice on how to create the image attached below. Then they accomplish it and post it, as if it were something of their own making ... which it definitely is NOT !!!

Some of the same folks who decry AI imagery will compliment that moonshot hogster with their typical "Great shot, nice work" BS. The dexterity to clamp a camera to a tripod and point it at the moon does NOT constitute authorship of the resulting image.



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Feb 13, 2023 16:11:34   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Wait until AI takes over the world from flesh and blood human beings. Hal was a piker compared to artificial intelligence. There's no escape! LOL

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Feb 13, 2023 17:20:48   #
goldenyears Loc: Lake Osewgo
 
I can imagine a time when AI images proliferate and people are amazed at beautiful images made the "old way" by artisan photographers.

Here is something for you to experiment with: https://chat.openai.com/ You'll be asked to sign in. I think this is because eventually this experimental platform will become monetized. But until then you might enjoy playing with AI. I have found this AI program to be superior to any other method of solving problems with webpage coding.

I posed that opening remark as a question to the AI software. Here is the conversation:

It's possible that some people may continue to appreciate the unique qualities and craftsmanship of photographs created by traditional artisan photographers even as AI-generated images become more prevalent. However, the level of appreciation may vary depending on individual preferences and cultural factors.

What do you mean?

I mean that people's attitudes towards photography and the value they place on different aspects of it are shaped by a range of factors such as their personal experiences, cultural background, and societal norms. Some people may continue to appreciate the aesthetics, emotional depth, and technical skills involved in traditional photography, while others may prefer the convenience, versatility, and novelty of AI-generated images. Ultimately, the perception of beauty and artistic value is subjective and can vary widely across different individuals and cultures.

I went on a lot further with the "conversation" and found it to be much more informative than using Google inquiries. It was actually a quite pleasant experience. Finally, I asked if AI generated images will doom photography.

No, I don't think that AI-generated images will necessarily doom photography as an art form. While AI-generated images may offer new creative possibilities and conveniences for image-making, they do not replace the unique vision, skill, and emotional depth that are characteristic of traditional photography. Many people still appreciate the technical and artistic challenges of working with film, as well as the unique aesthetic and emotional qualities of handmade photographs. Furthermore, as with any new technology, the use of AI in photography will likely evolve and adapt over time, offering new opportunities for creative expression and innovation. In short, while AI-generated images may have an impact on the field of photography, they are unlikely to replace it entirely.


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Feb 13, 2023 21:54:07   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
It is nice enough - but it isn’t a photograph - go back to the root of the word

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Feb 14, 2023 00:42:19   #
ygelman Loc: new -- North of Poughkeepsie!
 
Delderby wrote:
IMO There is NO PLACE for IA IN THE WORLD OF PHOTOGRAPHY. From a photographer's point of view IA is an abomination. . .

Don’t be so rigid. Much of Photoshop etc. is already AI. Images generated by AI can be quite good. What we need is an honest description of a piece of Art.

It seems that any truthful description of the artistic medium for a work will have to fall into one of the following categories:
1) Straight out the Camera;
2) Photographically generated, with digital/darkroom manipulation;
3) AI generated and manipulated.

If we keep to that system, there’s no longer any need for eight or more pages of opinions on this matter.

Nuff said.
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Feb 14, 2023 02:09:29   #
ChristianHJensen
 
User ID wrote:
Imagination Deficit Disorder is endemic throughout UHH. Colors of Nature ? Color is not an attribute of nature. What we call color is just viewer conditioning. Theres no "there" there. "Sea State" ??!?!? Just your personal projection. Acoarst youre most welcome to see whatever you may choose to see (see erotic image below).


Not sure what you are smoking - but it must be some good shit

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Feb 14, 2023 04:08:07   #
User ID
 
stan0301 wrote:
It is nice enough - but it isn’t a photograph - go back to the root of the word

The root was obsoleted by usage long before this concern arose about AI.

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Feb 26, 2023 13:50:03   #
goldenyears Loc: Lake Osewgo
 
I wish whoever first coined the term "artificial intelligence" would have found a different word than "intelligence." But we're stuck with that terminology now. I decided to ask Chat GPT... one of the conversational AI applications that surfaced last year, what it thought about "intelligence." Here is the transcript of the "conversation."

"What is intelligence?"

"Intelligence is a multifaceted concept that can be difficult to define precisely. At its core, intelligence refers to the ability to learn, reason, problem-solve, and adapt to new situations. It involves the ability to perceive and understand information, to use that information to make decisions, and to communicate effectively with others.

Intelligence can take many different forms, including cognitive abilities like logical reasoning, spatial awareness, and memory, as well as social and emotional skills like empathy, self-awareness, and the ability to regulate one's own emotions. Some theories of intelligence emphasize innate abilities, while others suggest that intelligence is largely the result of environmental factors like education, experience, and cultural context.

Overall, intelligence is a complex and multifaceted concept that can manifest in many different ways depending on the individual and their environment."

"Does Chat GPT have intelligence?"

"As an artificial intelligence language model, Chat GPT is capable of processing large amounts of data, recognizing patterns, and generating responses based on its training. However, it is important to note that Chat GPT's "intelligence" is different from human intelligence in many ways. While it can provide helpful and insightful responses, it does not have emotions, consciousness, creativity, or the ability to understand and experience the world in the same way that humans do.

Therefore, while Chat GPT can be a useful tool for processing information and generating responses, it does not have the same kind of intelligence as a human being. Its abilities are limited to the parameters set by its programming and training data, and it cannot think or reason outside of those parameters."

Who could have said it better? Actually, I have stopped using Google to search for information, then looking through tons of "hits" on webpages. I now use Chat GPT.

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