AI image fools judges and wins photography competition. What do you think about AI-only generated images ?
Feb 13, 2023 07:42:10 #
Delderby wrote:
IMO There is NO PLACE for IA IN THE WORLD OF PHOTOGRAPHY. From a photographer's point of view IA is an abomination. How can digital manipulation possibly be included as a photographic tool?
My grandpa said that phones were an abomination and that people would soon return to writing letters.
His father said that cars were an abomination and that people would soon return to riding horses.
Do you see a pattern here?
Feb 13, 2023 08:13:48 #
jlg1000 wrote:
My grandpa said that phones were an abomination and that people would soon return to writing letters.
His father said that cars were an abomination and that people would soon return to riding horses.
Do you see a pattern here?
His father said that cars were an abomination and that people would soon return to riding horses.
Do you see a pattern here?
No - I don't! However - it is obvious that you do. The difference is that IA is not real - motor cars and phones are. At best, IA is a product of imagination, at worst it is a lie.
Feb 13, 2023 08:20:19 #
Delderby wrote:
No - I don't! However - it is obvious that you do. The difference is that IA is not real - motor cars and phones are. At best, IA is a product of imagination, at worst it is a lie.
Software is nowadays as real as any physical object.
Your camera does work - besides having electronics - because it has a couple of millions of lines of code inside.
Airplanes flight on software, soon cars will also drive all by themselves ... by "non physical" software.
I have more money invested in software than what my computers are worth.
No, my friend, AI is *very real*
It will write bestsellers, win court cases, etc. by the end of this decade.
Watch and see.
Feb 13, 2023 08:59:29 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
jlg1000 wrote:
Software is nowadays as real as any physical objec... (show quote)
This discussion needs to go to the attic with the other drivel...
Feb 13, 2023 09:15:24 #
jlg1000 wrote:
Software is nowadays as real as any physical objec... (show quote)
Hold on! As you say - software is real - but what that software produces might be anything but. A Marvel comic is real - but the contents are not.
Feb 13, 2023 09:37:27 #
jlg1000 wrote:
Software is nowadays as real as any physical objec... (show quote)
Agree, try registering on ChatGPT, they are so overwhelmed that you can only get on a waiting list.
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Feb 13, 2023 10:18:03 #
There is the difference between the joy of looking at an interesting image and making one yourself. "I made that" will not soon go away.
Feb 13, 2023 10:22:00 #
Feb 13, 2023 13:32:34 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Anything goes in art, any medium, any alterations,... (show quote)
I agree with grwilliams6. Changing a sky with PS or a myriad of other photo software is just as deceptive as using AI software to create the image from scratch. As AI packages become more nuanced, perhaps contestants should enter AI creations in special categories broken down by the software they used. They should also disclose the text of the instructions they gave the software. I love the concept of revising ethical standards so that photojournalists and photo competition contestants submit their original "untouched" images and their final products. Images that weren't manipulated except by cropping and minor color shifts should be entered in a special "Untouched" contest category, and this fact should be recognized by attaching "Untouched" or "Altered" to all photo credits.
Feb 13, 2023 13:42:19 #
The Green Left still says that cars are an abomination (even EVs) and they want you to use mass transit, ride a bicycle or walk.
Feb 13, 2023 13:46:50 #
Delderby wrote:
How can digital manipulation possibly be included as a photographic tool?
Isn't Lightroom digital manipulation?
Feb 13, 2023 14:06:38 #
Wallen wrote:
Visually, the image looks great. A closer look eas... (show quote)
My sincerest sympathies upon you :-(
Feb 13, 2023 14:08:54 #
Delderby wrote:
I How can digital manipulation possibly be included as a photographic tool?
The same way darkroom manipulation is a photographic tool. Much of what you can do in Photoshop was also done in the darkroom - swapping skies, composite images. The things were done from the very beginnings of photography. Now that is it easier with digital it is no longer a part of photography?
Feb 13, 2023 14:13:44 #
Delderby wrote:
IMO There is NO PLACE for IA IN THE WORLD OF PHOTOGRAPHY. From a photographer's point of view IA is an abomination. How can digital manipulation possibly be included as a photographic tool?
You actually mean that ? Thaz way sad.
I almost feel guilty laffing at you, like Im making fun of a deformed and disabled person. Difference is that the latter has no possibility to outgrow their misfortune.
Feb 13, 2023 14:38:10 #
User ID wrote:
You actually mean that ? Thaz way sad.
I almost feel guilty laffing at you, like Im making fun of a deformed and disabled person. Difference is that the latter has no possibility to outgrow their misfortune.
I almost feel guilty laffing at you, like Im making fun of a deformed and disabled person. Difference is that the latter has no possibility to outgrow their misfortune.
Please remind yourself what the OP said "AI image fools judges and wins photography competition. What do you think about IA - only generated images and their place in the photo world" ? Well - what do YOU think? It seems that you believe ANY image is a photograph.
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