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Feb 12, 2023 16:07:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
OK… thanks. I will look into what is on the drive. Knowing what is taking up all that data-space is good to know. It should not have docs, downloads or photos… but, it’s worth the time to check.

I am leaning toward getting a larger C: drive, as I like the idea of having lots of extra storage capability. The other option of uninstalling/reinstalling PS/LR, etc. on a different drive is still on the table, though.

Thanks for your help


Reinstalling software, and investigating the root-cause of who is using C:, are costs of 'time'. Replacng a drive on a machine already with 1.5TB space, is time and money. I'd start with investigation and moving software, if applicable, over new equipment.

You might want to get a 'pro' involved on re-partitioning as well as a physically new drive, neither are everyday actions on computer maintenance.

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Feb 12, 2023 16:17:56   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You have 1.5TB of local storage. You probably don't need to replace drives. Repartitioning may / may not be the solution. A 128GB drive, especially for the Windows C: default, is problematic. But, if you update your windows defaults, specifically aspects of your profile for storing all your 'personal' files, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

You've gravitated toward two specific software programs, where the root-cause maybe completely someplace else, and unrelated, other than the size limits of 128GB.
You have 1.5TB of local storage. You probably don'... (show quote)

Yes… good points. I will look into the partition question before doing anything else. And, that will be tomorrow’s task.

Thanks!

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Feb 12, 2023 16:45:47   #
SteveInConverse Loc: South Texas
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
This computer is about 2 years old. And, it has three drives: C:, D: and E:. The C: drive is the problem drive, as it is small. The others, are 1 TB for the D: drive and 500 GB for the E: drive.


As a general best practices rule, try to keep just the operating system on your C drive. Install your programs on one of your other drives. If speed is a concern, use SSD drives for your needs.

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Feb 12, 2023 16:57:48   #
BebuLamar
 
A simple approach just replace the C Drive. Just clone it to a new larger SSD. It's quite simple.

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Feb 12, 2023 17:07:58   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
SteveInConverse wrote:
As a general best practices rule, try to keep just the operating system on your C drive. Install your programs on one of your other drives. If speed is a concern, use SSD drives for your needs.

Agreed! Thanks!

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Feb 12, 2023 17:08:47   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
A simple approach just replace the C Drive. Just clone it to a new larger SSD. It's quite simple.

That option is definitely on the table! Thanks!

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Feb 12, 2023 22:03:16   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
This computer is about 2 years old. And, it has three drives: C:, D: and E:. The C: drive is the problem drive, as it is small. The others, are 1 TB for the D: drive and 500 GB for the E: drive.


This is standard deployment these days, and is REQUIRED in many government institutions and large enterprises. The thinking is that only the operating system (OS) should reside on the boot drive (usually C:) and everything else on the other drives. Since you have a D: and an E: drive, I'd probably be putting my applications (the .exe files and their support files) on the E: drive and saving all my data to the D: drive. The thinking is that if a drive fails, as long as it isn't the boot volume, recovery is easier and faster.

Of course, there's also the chance that you really only have one drive, but it's been partitioned into logical drives, but the thinking is the same: Only the OS goes on the boot volume.

Of course, as usual, Microsoft doesn't adapt easily to the times, and so when one installs a new program, Windows still suggests (insists?) that you install everything including the kitchen sink under C:\Windows\Program Files\. Bah. Don't follow Microsoft's inane thinking. That's what gets you into the pickle you now find yourself in. Lesson learned.

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Feb 12, 2023 22:15:35   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
Just Fred wrote:
This is standard deployment these days, and is REQUIRED in many government institutions and large enterprises. The thinking is that only the operating system (OS) should reside on the boot drive (usually C:) and everything else on the other drives. Since you have a D: and an E: drive, I'd probably be putting my applications (the .exe files and their support files) on the E: drive and saving all my data to the D: drive. The thinking is that if a drive fails, as long as it isn't the boot volume, recovery is easier and faster.

Of course, there's also the chance that you really only have one drive, but it's been partitioned into logical drives, but the thinking is the same: Only the OS goes on the boot volume.

Of course, as usual, Microsoft doesn't adapt easily to the times, and so when one installs a new program, Windows still suggests (insists?) that you install everything including the kitchen sink under C:\Windows\Program Files\. Bah. Don't follow Microsoft's inane thinking. That's what gets you into the pickle you now find yourself in. Lesson learned.
This is standard deployment these days, and is REQ... (show quote)

Thanks for your help. I have been installing to the D: drive, but all the Adobe stuff ended up on the C: drive. That was my mistake by not catching the installation to the default drive. Oh, well… That was during initial install on the new computer. Since then, I changed the default drive, so subsequent installs did not go to C: drive. Now trying to correct my mistakes.

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Feb 13, 2023 06:52:27   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
I have been struggling with Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop. Not the programs themselves, but with the hard drive they are installed on... The issue is that the drive is too small and occasionally doesn't have enough "room" to do some functions.

All of my Adobe software is loaded on the C: drive, which is only 128GB. Not my choice, but it is what I have to deal with. And, I have been fighting to keep enough open drive space for PS and LR, but am losing the battle.

So, I have options... I could uninstall/reinstall the Adobe stuff to another drive. (I have two others, both are SSDs with lots of space. Or, I could install a new, larger, C: drive (SSD type).

The question then, is whether one option is better than the other. Putting in the new C: drive would provide great overall system improvement. However, there is a lot that goes into physically replacing that drive. I believe there is software that can manage the upgrade tasks.

The other option would be to uninstall all my adobe software and reinstall on one of the other drives. That would likely resolve the issue. But, requires a bit of work to get everything reset.

Any input would be appreciated... Where do you have your software installed? Any experience upgrading your C: drive? Ever moved your Adobe programs from one drive to another?

Thanks!
I have been struggling with Adobe Lightroom and Ph... (show quote)


When a laptop died, i took the 476 GB Intel M2 out, and installed it as the C: drive in my desktop. I have tons of programs, but the C: drive now has only 114 GB - programs - and everything else is on the second internal drive, D:, which is 1 TB. I suspect that if you follow Paul's suggestions, you will not need to buy another drive. Programs should reside on C:, but put everything else on one of your other internal drives. Incidentally, I agree that AOMEI Backupper is excellent software, and cloning is an easy way to go (as available). You just may need to do a bit of juggling to get everything where you want it/it should be. It may involve formatting as well as subsequent cloning/moving.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Feb 13, 2023 08:12:13   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
I have been struggling with Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop. Not the programs themselves, but with the hard drive they are installed on... The issue is that the drive is too small and occasionally doesn't have enough "room" to do some functions.

All of my Adobe software is loaded on the C: drive, which is only 128GB. Not my choice, but it is what I have to deal with. And, I have been fighting to keep enough open drive space for PS and LR, but am losing the battle.

So, I have options... I could uninstall/reinstall the Adobe stuff to another drive. (I have two others, both are SSDs with lots of space. Or, I could install a new, larger, C: drive (SSD type).

The question then, is whether one option is better than the other. Putting in the new C: drive would provide great overall system improvement. However, there is a lot that goes into physically replacing that drive. I believe there is software that can manage the upgrade tasks.

The other option would be to uninstall all my adobe software and reinstall on one of the other drives. That would likely resolve the issue. But, requires a bit of work to get everything reset.

Any input would be appreciated... Where do you have your software installed? Any experience upgrading your C: drive? Ever moved your Adobe programs from one drive to another?

Thanks!
I have been struggling with Adobe Lightroom and Ph... (show quote)


Get the larger SSD drive put in. You can store the actual photos on one of the other drives or an external drive. I kepp the last several months on my C drive & the rest of the catalog on my D drive. Sometimes, purging the Cache in LR helps. Go to Edit in the top right drop down menus. Go down to Preferences & purge your cache & video cache & restart LR. When min slows down, this helps. I' still using LR VER. 6.14 standalone without PS. So... Good luck & it sounds like you might need a computer upgrade.

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Feb 13, 2023 08:21:31   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
I have been struggling with Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop. Not the programs themselves, but with the hard drive they are installed on... The issue is that the drive is too small and occasionally doesn't have enough "room" to do some functions.

All of my Adobe software is loaded on the C: drive, which is only 128GB. Not my choice, but it is what I have to deal with. And, I have been fighting to keep enough open drive space for PS and LR, but am losing the battle.

So, I have options... I could uninstall/reinstall the Adobe stuff to another drive. (I have two others, both are SSDs with lots of space. Or, I could install a new, larger, C: drive (SSD type).

The question then, is whether one option is better than the other. Putting in the new C: drive would provide great overall system improvement. However, there is a lot that goes into physically replacing that drive. I believe there is software that can manage the upgrade tasks.

The other option would be to uninstall all my adobe software and reinstall on one of the other drives. That would likely resolve the issue. But, requires a bit of work to get everything reset.

Any input would be appreciated... Where do you have your software installed? Any experience upgrading your C: drive? Ever moved your Adobe programs from one drive to another?

Thanks!
I have been struggling with Adobe Lightroom and Ph... (show quote)


128 Mb is far too small for the main drive with Windows on it.
For better overall performance a larger C:\ drive is recommended. A 512 Mb SSD would be a good choice. Move Windows to the new drive but leave the Adobe software on the 128 Mb SSD. You should find a significant improvement in performance.

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Feb 13, 2023 08:26:00   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
tcthome wrote:
Get the larger SSD drive put in. You can store the actual photos on one of the other drives or an external drive. I kepp the last several months on my C drive & the rest of the catalog on my D drive. Sometimes, purging the Cache in LR helps. Go to Edit in the top right drop down menus. Go down to Preferences & purge your cache & video cache & restart LR. When min slows down, this helps. I' still using LR VER. 6.14 standalone without PS. So... Good luck & it sounds like you might need a computer upgrade.
Get the larger SSD drive put in. You can store the... (show quote)

Thanks… new drive is an option. I will look to purge old files, cache, etc… But, that is only a temporary ‘fix’. I am trying to resolve the issue for the long-term.

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Feb 13, 2023 08:37:43   #
Bayou
 
Just Fred wrote:
This is standard deployment these days, and is REQUIRED in many government institutions and large enterprises. The thinking is that only the operating system (OS) should reside on the boot drive (usually C:) and everything else on the other drives. Since you have a D: and an E: drive, I'd probably be putting my applications (the .exe files and their support files) on the E: drive and saving all my data to the D: drive. The thinking is that if a drive fails, as long as it isn't the boot volume, recovery is easier and faster....
This is standard deployment these days, and is REQ... (show quote)


This is the answer.

Your machine was built to be used in this fashion. It's a sensible practice that is common in the enterprise environment. I do it myself. Unfortunately you've not been using it this way, so things are a bit of a mess. The tricky part of this approach is that installations have to be monitored carefully, not accepting the defaults, to ensure that programs and the data files they create end up on the correct drives.

How to proceed from here? I'd totally rebuild from scratch, especially with a newish machine like your 2 year old. Assuring proper backup, I'd reformat the drives, reinstall Windows on C:, reinstall programs on E: from original installation files/media, and set data product (including Adobe catalog files) to go to D:

That may be more work than you want to take on, but I've done this many times on many machines, and rather enjoy the process and the end product of it all. There are other options, as have been suggested. You've a lot to consider. Best of luck!

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Feb 13, 2023 08:42:48   #
imciberrana Loc: Staten Island,NY
 
Assuming that you have no other issues and assuming that your system will allow installation of a larger ssd hard drive ( C: ) I’d say clone original C drive onto the larger drive. Afterwards replace 128GB drive with the larger drive. Cloning software and the right ssd enclosure would required for you be able clone the new hard drive properly.

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Feb 13, 2023 08:52:37   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
Bayou wrote:
This is the answer.

Your machine was built to be used in this fashion. It's a sensible practice that is common in the enterprise environment. I do it myself. Unfortunately you've not been using it this way, so things are a bit of a mess. The tricky part of this approach is that installations have to be monitored carefully, not accepting the defaults, to ensure that programs and the data files they create end up on the correct drives.

How to proceed from here? I'd totally rebuild from scratch, especially with a newish machine like your 2 year old. Assuring proper backup, I'd reformat the drives, reinstall Windows on C:, reinstall programs on E: from original installation files/media, and set data product (including Adobe catalog files) to go to D:

That may be more work than you want to take on, but I've done this many times on many machines, and rather enjoy the process and the end product of it all. There are other options, as have been suggested. You've a lot to consider. Best of luck!
This is the answer. br br Your machine was built ... (show quote)


Thanks! That certainly sums up the problem. And, your recommendations are much appreciated. Fortunately, I already have a number of programs on the E: drive. Just not all, yet...

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