CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I've done the in-person sales to KEH where I watched and then understood how I'd purchased broken equipment from them in the past. It's visually inspected, a price obtained from a database, sent to Atlanta of addition to the for-sale inventory. End of process. If there's a problem, the next customer will discover in more in-depth testing. Why would anyone else be any different when operating a for-profit business of discounted camera equipment?

elee950021 Loc: New York, NY

MT Shooter!

You can! Both Techart and Fringer manufacture Canon EF, EF-s to Nikon Z camera adapters while the usual suspects make dumb adapters that allow manual focusing and contain no electronics. I expect my Techart Canon to Nikon Z adapter any day now. A while back, I did pick up a few Canon lenses for my 5D mk2, 1Ds mk3 and my SLs.

I bought a Nikon Z5 refurb a few weeks back with 2 "Used" FTZ adapters and all is well! Over 5K exposures with 2/3 of the Holy Trinity and not a problem!

Be well! Ed

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

You looked at the image in question, right? With both eyes? Open?

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

🤣🤣🤣 Beat me to it!

williejoha

Good eyes. Well, you cannot beat the best you can only emulate them.
WJH

chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY

That is KEH - they are not a camera manufacturer only a used retailer. I would only buy Nikon refurb from Nikon, not from any retailer including B&H and Adorama, especially if it was refurbished by THEM. I would buy USED from KEH as they have a good return policy and extended warranty. That's just me.

Why would they knowingly send out broken equipment? They know it's coming back at em. It all depends on the circumstances. Was it a packaging issue? - the stock clerk at Nikon accidentally sliced a few boxes with his box cutter at the loading dock so now it is a simple repackaging - the equipment is new and intact from Nikon Japan but they can't sell it as "NEW" but now it goes into the "REFURB" pile. In that case I fully support the simple repacking process. In other cases it may be a repair job that Nikon decided would be better to replace (under warranty) to the customer and then send them a new replacement and the repaired model would be resold as "refurb". Packaging damaged in shipment is covered by the carriers insurance so any little cost that Nikon spends on a quick inspection is insignificant. Nikon USA I'm sure has the same test jig they have at the factories for testing - the cost would be insignificant compared to the cost of re-packaging which must be done manually (no AI bots yet for packaging!)

I've heard that once about Sony sending back broken pieces back to the customer but that's only because the part was no longer made. Sony is infamous for obsoleting their cameras prematurely which is one reason I would never buy a Sony. I have had not heard one case of a Nikon refurb customer getting back broken equipment, but anything is possible in the grand scheme of things. I HAVE heard folks getting NEW lemons from Nikon, especially lenses.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

You're too busy confusing warranty returns with customer returns to think through what you're arguing (customer didn't like / keep within the reseller's return window). No one said a "refurb" was a repair, because it isn't. Try thinking about the parts and labor involved to do anything more than rewrap almost completely new equipment into a fresh box, to then sell at a discount. There maybe a great profit margin on camera equipment, but once you add a skilled human to the process, things get quite expensive, eating that idea of a profit when now selling at a lower price than new.

Remember too: if anyone other than the original manufacturer opens the insides of any camera equipment, that's the end of any and all warranty support. Why would a reseller take on that warranty support obligation for the insides of someone else's camera, especially when they can't even get parts from Nikon.

For KEH, why test anything? Do they have the manpower? Do they have the profit margin? How do you test film equipment? Cost-effectively? No, you've got the next customer to do that work. If they find something, they can send it back for free.

Go for a walk. Think about it ....

williejoha

Right on
WJH

BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA

Certainly sloppy choice of stock photo on someone's part. Originator did go to some length to disguise the camera though. See 8x enlargement of image.

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

"Originator" is right HERE! It's an Ugly Hedgehog ad! That's the point of this post.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Canon equipment as a Nikon refurb, perfect example of the UHH community in action. All comers welcome.

Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.

The autofocus system in the R6.

SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”

Maybe the add refers to the photographer…just sayin

ReFlections Loc: From LA to AL

Good to hear from you MT.

Properframe Loc: US Virginia

Nope. I bought a refurb TCIII from Nikon and it had no original items and no original box. Since they should require that to take the item back I wonder what happened to them. I figured a TC is a safe bet since it has no moving parts. Never have liked using it - even though I tested it and it is sharp.