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Canon R5 w/100-500mm vs. Canon R7 w/800mm f/11 compared
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Feb 4, 2023 14:43:11   #
MtManMD Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
 
Nalu wrote:
I’m inclined to think the zoom is a bit sharper than the “inexpensive” 800mm f/11, but it may have to do with the shorter focal length and operator issues than the quality of the glass.


I haven't had and used the R7 extensively yet, but so far in my experience the images from the R5 seem to be overall better on a consistent basis as compared to the R7 images no matter which lens is used. In other words, I'm finding that I really like the full frame sensor.

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Feb 4, 2023 14:46:15   #
MtManMD Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
 
ncribble wrote:
MT Man thank you for this interesting comparison. To my naked eye, the R5 and 100~500 gave you more distinct images. If available, would not the best comparison have been the R7 with the 100 ~ 400 lens?
Garcias,
Norm


I had the thought afterwards that I should have switched lens and bodies for a comparison like this, however I had specifically intended to test the R7 and 800mm combo on this outing. Thanks for your comments.

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Feb 4, 2023 14:47:40   #
MtManMD Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Interesting comparison and nice set. Thanks for sharing


Thanks Jim.

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Feb 4, 2023 14:51:03   #
MtManMD Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
 
agillot wrote:
For smaller birds , 800mm is it [ that is what is use , 800 f8 older 80 s] .On the other hand large birds , the zoom is more flexible . You can be too close with a fixed 800 on a blue heron , the zoom would fix that .So the ideal would be a 150 / 600 .


I had the 150-600mm Tamron when I purchase the R5 and adapter. I could not get the lens to focus correctly with the R5. I gave up, sold it and got the RF 100-500 instead. Not a single regret.

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Feb 4, 2023 17:45:09   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
MtManMD wrote:
I was out at the refuge and found myself amongst flocks of song birds at a parking area. I did some side-by-side shots out the car window, trading back and forth between the R5 full frame body with RF 100-500mm L lens (my go-to combination) and the newer R7 APS-C body with the 800mm f/11 economy lens. How do you think the images compare?

Distance was about 25 ft. or less from subject. The 20 ft. minimum focus distance of the 800mm resulted in a lot less shots with that combo because the birds were close in a small space, and that lens struggles to focus when near the minimum distance.

Handheld with arm resting on a bean bag. I slightly cropped most of the R5 shots so image size would be comparable. Most were shot at 1/3200 and Auto ISO ranged between 2500 and 6400 on most, with Topaz DeNoise often coming to the rescue.

The 800mm f/11 performs pretty well when you have good light. It was slightly sunny, with sunlight through thin clouds most of the time.
I was out at the refuge and found myself amongst f... (show quote)


Sure nice of the birds to look so crisp and clear for you

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Feb 4, 2023 19:24:48   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
MtManMD wrote:
I haven't had and used the R7 extensively yet, but so far in my experience the images from the R5 seem to be overall better on a consistent basis as compared to the R7 images no matter which lens is used. In other words, I'm finding that I really like the full frame sensor.


I would agree with you. I find that if the R7 does not lock on with eye tracking and I have to use either zone or spot focus, the camera tends to hunt. Once it locks on the eye, it is great.
Thank you very much for this comparison. You captured some great feather detail with both set ups. You took advantage of a good situation to obtain some nice images and to give you some valid comparisons for future choices.

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Feb 4, 2023 21:51:46   #
Bubalola Loc: Big Apple, NY
 
MtManMD wrote:
I was out at the refuge and found myself amongst flocks of song birds at a parking area. I did some side-by-side shots out the car window, trading back and forth between the R5 full frame body with RF 100-500mm L lens (my go-to combination) and the newer R7 APS-C body with the 800mm f/11 economy lens. How do you think the images compare?

Distance was about 25 ft. or less from subject. The 20 ft. minimum focus distance of the 800mm resulted in a lot less shots with that combo because the birds were close in a small space, and that lens struggles to focus when near the minimum distance.

Handheld with arm resting on a bean bag. I slightly cropped most of the R5 shots so image size would be comparable. Most were shot at 1/3200 and Auto ISO ranged between 2500 and 6400 on most, with Topaz DeNoise often coming to the rescue.

The 800mm f/11 performs pretty well when you have good light. It was slightly sunny, with sunlight through thin clouds most of the time.
I was out at the refuge and found myself amongst f... (show quote)


I think it would be interesting to conduct sort of a “blind” test, and then let the viewers to guess what camera+lens took a certain photo, MtMan!

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Feb 4, 2023 23:27:25   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
MtManMD wrote:
Thanks for the bird ID. I haven't had a chance to look them up you myself.

I've got some great shots with the R7 and 800mm, but they've been more of an exception rather than consistent. And I love the R5 with the 100-500mm.


Yes I too have found the consistency to be a little off with the R7. And while the focus is quite good most of the time sometimes it's disappointing when it says it has locked to find that it didn't really. But no camera or lens is perfect in my budget so it is what it is.
Your bird images were well done with good results.

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Feb 7, 2023 14:53:34   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Very nice series

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