Has anyone seen or heard of this camera? Wife was asking (Page 2): Review from 2018 should explain a lot. DOA...if it ever arrived.

radiojohn

Review from 2018 should explain a lot. DOA...if it ever arrived.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Architect1776 wrote:

Never heard of it, but it reminds me of the Griswold's car in the original "Vacation".

The Wagon Queen Family Truckster

DavidSalo Loc: San Diego, CA

The free ebook on photograhy at http://davidsalomon.name/ has much info on the L16

richardjkirby601 Loc: Northern VA

scooter1 wrote:

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/4/10/17218758/light-l16-review-camera-photos

Good lord, for $2K that should wash my car too... never seen or heard about that phone. Bet they have optional monthly services you can subscribe too as well...

buzzerbill

A recent post on the camera:
https://themachineplanet.wordpress.com/2022/10/17/light-l16-computational-camera-trypophilia/

Klickitatdave Loc: Seattle Washington

Architect1776 wrote:

Never heard of it, but it reminds me of the Griswold's car in the original "Vacation".

Ah, the "Wagon Queen Family Truckster". I always wanted one of those.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

Thank all of you for your replies. I wanted to talk my wife out of buying this and with your help it has come about.

brian007 Loc: In but not from Huntington Beach, CA

User ID wrote:

I recall that one. Its on the Dustbin of History hit parade along with the Lytro "light field" camera, Nishika "lenticular 3D" camera, and Sigma Foveon "digital film" cameras.

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There must be other one-trick-ponies than these. Would make an intriguing mini museum of odd losers. Each is an interesting flash in the pan device that actually had at least some initial sales.

I don't know about the other two you mentioned, but Sigma's Foveon sensor is hardly in the Dustbin of History. Nor would I characterize it as a "flash in the pan." The Foveon sensor cameras require patience to be sure (I know because I own two, and they can be frustrating) but if you are willing to put up with their quirks they are capable of stunning imagery. Also there is a robust, if relatively small, community of users. And also Sigma still sells Foveon sensor cameras.

Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.

I've never heard of this camera either. I'll bet it costs an arm and a leg which means I wouldn't get out of the electric chair for one.

User ID

brian007 wrote:

I don't know about the other two you mentioned, but Sigma's Foveon sensor is hardly in the Dustbin of History. Nor would I characterize it as a "flash in the pan." The Foveon sensor cameras require patience to be sure (I know because I own two, and they can be frustrating) but if you are willing to put up with their quirks they are capable of stunning imagery. Also there is a robust, if relatively small, community of users. And also Sigma still sells Foveon sensor cameras.

Well, well, well ... Welcome, Pilgrimme ! to the Dustbin of History.

The Dustbin of History does not exclude devices, such as the foveon, that may have residual inventory and-or a cult of users. Altho the DSLR was never just a flash in the pan, it now has one foot in the Dustbin of History and its other foot on a banana peel.

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I have a peculiar "last gasp" DSLR. As with the foveon, it does just one thing verrrrrry well, is quite limited in other ways, and never made its mark in the market. Various "post SLR" models now do that one thing verrrry well WITHOUT the limitations of my camera.

IOW there are some still usable one trick ponies in the Dustbin. And as with your foveon, you can readily buy my camera brand new (but who really buys them ?)

brian007 Loc: In but not from Huntington Beach, CA

User ID wrote:

The Dustbin of History does not exclude devices, such as the foveon, that may have residual inventory and-or a cult of users. Altho the DSLR was never just a flash in the pan, it now has one foot in the Dustbin of History and its other foot on a banana peel.

Residual inventory? Sigma is still producing Foveon sensor cameras. And that's my point: it's not in the dustbin quite yet. Nevertheless, we're taking this thread in a direction the OP probably never intended or even wanted, and I suppose I caused that. The last word is yours if you want it, USER ID.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

User ID wrote:

Well, well, well ... Welcome, Pilgrimme ! to the D... (show quote)

The problem is that the one thing that the Foveon sensor does very well is still only incrementally better than a modern CMOS sensor. And even then it’s further mitigated by post processing software that is optimized for good old Bayer array CMOS processing and it’s likely you won’t see that difference while it is more likely you’ll see the noise and pixel light bleed problems associated with the Foveon.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

brian007 wrote:

Residual inventory? Sigma is still producing Foveon sensor cameras. And that's my point: it's not in the dustbin quite yet. Nevertheless, we're taking this thread in a direction the OP probably never intended or even wanted, and I suppose I caused that. The last word is yours if you want it, USER ID.

The only Foveon camera currently being marketed by Sigma is the DP1 Quattro, a fixed lens APS-C wide angle camera that was released in 2014. Do you know that Sigma is still manufacturing these as opposed to selling off residual inventory?

User ID

SuperflyTNT wrote:

The only Foveon camera currently being marketed by Sigma is the DP1 Quattro, a fixed lens APS-C wide angle camera that was released in 2014. Do you know that Sigma is still manufacturing these as opposed to selling off residual inventory?

Many folks equate "still in the catalog" with "still in production", as they are unaware that complex products (unlike 2x4s or concrete) are made in batches based on forecasting. Acoarst when a forecast is faulty, that inventory can linger in the catalog loooooong term.

chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY

scooter1 wrote:

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/4/10/17218758/light-l16-review-camera-photos

Just don't insult it by calling it "four eyes".