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Dec 4, 2012 10:13:35   #
chuckr6767 Loc: Montana
 
I submit to Shutterstock and other stock agencies; before submitting take a look at your images in Photoshop, Lightroom etc at 100%; if not tack sharp toss 'em you are wasting your time. Excessive post processing; poor lighting and composition (very often debatable in my opinion but I've found it also a waste of time to squabble) are also killers. Good luck, trust me it takes an iron will and a humble outlook to make it worthwhile. The rewards are great however I have a friend who is making $1000 + per month after only 3 years submissions. Some make that much per day believe it or not...over and out Chuckr

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Dec 4, 2012 10:16:11   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Gtole wrote:
Here are some of the shots Shutterstock said were out of focus


The quality of the lens notwithstanding and other issues mentioned previously, specifically, what I'm seeing is that the foliage in front of the first one seems oof and around the nose area of the two animals are both oof, the blunt end of the ape's nose, and the entire snout of the lemur(?), perhaps more a dof issue than focus - or perhaps a phenom of the uploading to uhh. Maybe too much effort to keep iso down and too little effort to hit the lens "sweet spot." That 5D3 will allow a lot more iso than 100 and give you more latitude with aperture for dof.

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Dec 4, 2012 10:17:38   #
PeteWilliams Loc: Hampshire
 
Also, shooting at ISO 100 may also be part of the issue. Shooting at 100, 50 or below can cause an image to soften. Cameras are designed to be used at ISO 200 as standard.

You may find that they did just return the photos and use focus as a broad brush excuse. Stock photography is quite difficult to get into, you really have to tailor the images you offer to their specific needs. They employ an army of trend experts who work out what images the stock library needs at a given time. Be sure to keep on top of their needs! I looked at it once and got told that they were only after corporate type photos of individuals or groups. That throws up all sorts of issues, model releases, limited scope etc. So I Hun up my stock dreams there and then and settled on my real loves within photography.

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Dec 4, 2012 10:30:49   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
PeteWilliams wrote:
Also, shooting at ISO 100 may also be part of the issue. Shooting at 100, 50 or below can cause an image to soften. Cameras are designed to be used at ISO 200 as standard.

You may find that they did just return the photos and use focus as a broad brush excuse. Stock photography is quite difficult to get into, you really have to tailor the images you offer to their specific needs. They employ an army of trend experts who work out what images the stock library needs at a given time. Be sure to keep on top of their needs! I looked at it once and got told that they were only after corporate type photos of individuals or groups. That throws up all sorts of issues, model releases, limited scope etc. So I Hun up my stock dreams there and then and settled on my real loves within photography.
Also, shooting at ISO 100 may also be part of the ... (show quote)


At ISO 100 images start to soften? Never heard of that one.
I assure you on his camera the 5dmkiii the best quality images will be at ISO 100, provided that you have enough light. If I can get 1/125 shutter from my 70-200-2.8L at f2.8-f8. I will shoot at ISO 100 every time.
I use the 5dmkiii.

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Dec 4, 2012 10:37:54   #
Robbie7 Loc: Northampton. England
 
IMHO: Please dont be offended but in your situation I would appreciate an honest opinion .so here goes. Shots 1&3 are just snaps they wouldn't be keepers for me..Shot 2 Gorilla..Could be acceptable on its content e.g. expressive. I too have downloaded and looked at the images in detail and they fall far short of my L lenses. Apart from this there are many other variables to take into consideration, some mentioned above..regards :)

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Dec 4, 2012 10:38:07   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
One other note.
One of the best places to determine what makes a good stock image are magazines.

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Dec 4, 2012 11:03:35   #
Gtole Loc: Connecticut
 
Again Thanks for all the comments. I have always tried shooting at the lowest possible ISO because of noise issues when you get higher (on some cameras) I usually start there, and if the light isnt correct then I start cranking it higher. Is this wrong? should I opt to set aperture and shutter setting before ISO?
My way of looking at it has always been Light (ISO) then Shutter speed then DOF (aperture) Unless Im shooting sports then I go with shutter speed first. is this wrong as a general rule of thumb? The 5dMKIII is very new to me and it has a big learning curve compared to my old T3I so all your comments are very helpful.

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Dec 4, 2012 11:10:53   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Gtole wrote:
Hi all,
Has anyone been successful being accepted at Shutterstock. I placed what I thought were very good stock (type) photos and many of them were rejected saying out of focus. They are perfectly clear and sharp. So I'm wondering if anyone might have some tips.

Thanks

Gary


This is an excuse when a stock company doesnt want to tell people that there images are not up to there standards.

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Dec 4, 2012 11:19:19   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
Gtole wrote:
Again Thanks for all the comments. I have always tried shooting at the lowest possible ISO because of noise issues when you get higher (on some cameras) I usually start there, and if the light isnt correct then I start cranking it higher. Is this wrong? should I opt to set aperture and shutter setting before ISO?
My way of looking at it has always been Light (ISO) then Shutter speed then DOF (aperture) Unless Im shooting sports then I go with shutter speed first. is this wrong as a general rule of thumb? The 5dMKIII is very new to me and it has a big learning curve compared to my old T3I so all your comments are very helpful.
Again Thanks for all the comments. I have always t... (show quote)


Your right on keeping your miso as low as possible.

I shoot mainly AV and let my shutter float. I try to keep my shutter at 1/125.
If you use a tripod your shots will be sharper(if its a good one). Shutter is irrelevant with a tripod on still life. Just shoot for depth of field.

The mkiii is one of the best cameras available at high ISO. However for stock photography I wouldn't go above 200. You need to do that for stock. The stock companies expect the shots to have no noise.

Here's an example shot at ISO 6400 on the mKiii. It is not a stock photo candidate. Although the image is a nice image the depth of field was too low.
Look at the mans left hand and you can see the problem.

Image two would,be a good stock candidate. Tack sharp at ISO 100.

Picture thee is a good stock candidate after it is fixed in post. This is the slightly warped version. Due to an imperfect perspective and barrel distortion.

High ISO not a good stock candidate
High ISO not a good stock candidate...

Good stock candidate.
Good stock candidate....

Perspective with barrel distortion problem.
Perspective with barrel distortion problem....

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Dec 4, 2012 11:29:59   #
Gtole Loc: Connecticut
 
The quality of the high ISO(and focus points) on the MKIII was one of the main reasons I bought the camera. It is amazing as your shot points out. I saw the second shot one your site and loved it and how sharp it is. Now when you say barrel distortion what am I looking for because I dont see anything out of the ordinary.
I hope you dont mind but I will probably be hiting you up for more hints about this camera. I love it but it truly is another realm for me.

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Dec 4, 2012 11:52:41   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
Gtole wrote:
The quality of the high ISO(and focus points) on the MKIII was one of the main reasons I bought the camera. It is amazing as your shot points out. I saw the second shot one your site and loved it and how sharp it is. Now when you say barrel distortion what am I looking for because I dont see anything out of the ordinary.
I hope you dont mind but I will probably be hiting you up for more hints about this camera. I love it but it truly is another realm for me.


Look at picture three again.
Notice that the top of the picture in the frame is even and perfectly parallel to the edge of the picture.

Now go to the bottom of the picture and look at the feet of the furniture.
They're not even with the bottom of the frame.

A stock company would pick up on this.
Shooting for symmetry seeing symmetry or making symmetry takes practice.

One of my perfectly symmetrical images.
Notice no reflection in the mirror. Golden overtones would probably make a good stock image. A good compositor could add a reflection.
This one is not on my site. Doesn't fit with my portfolio.

Also notice the tripod legs reflected in the drawers on the pick below.

Symmetry
Symmetry...

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Dec 4, 2012 12:22:08   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
Looking at your downloaded pictures, they partially are in sharp focus, so the lens does not appear to me to be a problem. In both the animal pictures, left shoulder in the gorilla and left ear and rump in the small mammalian, are not as sharp. The very shallow depth of focus in your third picture is very evident in the loss of detail as you "climb" on the bark. I think your emphasis on low ISO has being counter-productive because you have fought noise by increasing aperture and consequently decreasing depth of field. I am talking from the viewpoint of what Shutterstck's appears to have. From an artistic viewpoint, I see a good side in having the small mammalian's image having the detail--and emphasis-- on its front, where your eye would focus first. I guess commercial outfits demand everything in sharp focus, which is not how are eyes see things when we look at a scene.

My
Gtole wrote:
Again Thanks for all the comments. I have always tried shooting at the lowest possible ISO because of noise issues when you get higher (on some cameras) I usually start there, and if the light isnt correct then I start cranking it higher. Is this wrong? should I opt to set aperture and shutter setting before ISO?
My way of looking at it has always been Light (ISO) then Shutter speed then DOF (aperture) Unless Im shooting sports then I go with shutter speed first. is this wrong as a general rule of thumb? The 5dMKIII is very new to me and it has a big learning curve compared to my old T3I so all your comments are very helpful.
Again Thanks for all the comments. I have always t... (show quote)

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Dec 4, 2012 12:23:16   #
Martys Loc: Lubec, Maine
 
We receive image submissions for publication on a regular basis.

We closely inspect apparently stunning images as we review a photographers work.
Sadly on close inspection many photographers have forgotten the basics,...rules that applied in the days of exposing film transparencies.
Heres a few;
Subject of interest being tack sharp.
The eyes being sharp on wildlife.
Sufficient yet not over contrast
Proper depth of field
Excessive cropping
Acceptable detail in shadow areas
Film grain not evident (todays equiv = noise, excessive or inferior post processing software or use of same)
Poor lens quality
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Much of this inferior work started appearing as digital images submissions started appearing.
The photographers who learned and still apply the solid basics had no problems. Often, we're not seeing that follow thru on digital image making.

We require photographers to submit the "Original image" as it came out of the camera,....along with the photographers post processed image (if it was done)with all layers and work included,..no sharpening applied and that the image be at least 12.5 inches on the long side and at 300 dpi resolution. This allows up to full page use while maintaining quality reproduction.

One of the first things I do on an image,...is scan (view closely)the entire image Top to bottom, left to right zoomed in very close,..removing any artifacts, (blurred dust on sensor mostly) equivalent to dust and fingerprints on slides)
At this closeness I can many times see bad editing techniques in post processing,..bad/poor work on selected areas,..misapplied color or other correction work..sometimes unidentifiable correction work that stumps me too???

Some photographers do not follow the guidelines,...some submit insufficient sized and unusable files, poor technique, altered images that are embedded with excessive manipulation, extensive resharpened detail, poorly applied alterations and on it goes.

That's why I want to see the original image as it came out of the camera,..
.then.....compare it to the photographers vision in his/her post processing effort,....I sometimes must start from scratch, using the out of camera original,...because the photographers post processing is unusable.
If they followed instructions I can just view each layer and see/correct any PP work as req'd.

One of my primary tasks is to match the color within the CMYK color space so images reproduce on press as best as possible.
Sharpening always being done in the last steps by me.

This is but a brief overview of things we see,...correction techniques and methods will vary user to user.

These images sometimes represent many thousands of dollars of expenses in both equipment and sometimes travel to exotic locations by these photographers.
I sympathize for the photographer deeply,....with the disappointment that must ensue following such effort and expense.

The basics of photography and following thru on submission guidelines are elementary at best.
I can only imagine what image houses must see across the board, good to unacceptable?
Their images must meet much more vigorous standards due to the vastly different size usages that buyers must depend on.

I Hope some of what we see here is a little bit helpful for others.
Martys

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Dec 4, 2012 12:24:47   #
billybob40
 
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Here’s how:

1.Today, go through Lightroom (or wherever you organize your photos) and pick out all of the photos that you think will work as stock.

2.One evening this week, upload 15 of them to the stock sites of your choice. We’re aiming to get 10 accepted, so let’s submit 15 in case a few get rejected.

3.Repeat step 2 each week for a month.

If you don’t have 60 photos that you deem “stock worthy” (or 15 per week for four weeks), you can do one of two things:

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-- Bonnie

Bonnie Caton
AWAI Travel Division
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Dec 4, 2012 13:10:44   #
Elkhunter Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
What stock companies want is sharp clear photos. What I do is bring my photo in to 100% and then I look the whole photo over real close and if it is sharp and clean where it should be then I will send it in. If any of it is blurred or fuzzy other then DOF I mark it of my list and it won't be sent.

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