Nikon 3 to 1? (Page 3): My sentiments exactly.

neillaubenthal

jaymatt wrote:

Idle curiosity: as long as the photos are good, who cares what camera took them?

My sentiments exactly.

Overthehill1

Don't really care what brand camera anyone uses but that looks like a lot of lens power to me. What are they photographing, the woman's fingernails?

SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia

bikinkawboy wrote:

Some of us just like to go slumming once in a while. Most likely that describes the people shooting Nikons.

Notice the cameras are all pointing downward? Easiest position for a Nikon shooter since we look down on anything that isn’t Nikon. Hardest position for Canon shooters because they always have their nose held high showing off their superior equipment.

What they "think" is superior equipment...

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

SX2002 wrote:

What they "think" is superior equipment...

Well it has utterly destroyed Nikon for over 35 years and now the R system carries on the legacy of full compatibility while Nikon continues to struggle with incompatibility and an incompatible lens mount etc.

SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia

Architect1776 wrote:

Well it has utterly destroyed Nikon for over 35 years and now the R system carries on the legacy of full compatibility while Nikon continues to struggle with incompatibility and an incompatible lens mount etc.

Incompatible with what...

I have several brands of lenses and they all fit just fine and work great...

Unlike some photographers (??) I'm not biased against any make of camera and have had several different makes over the years, I just went Nikon because it suited me at the time and still does. Just like some chose Canon, Sony, etc, to each his own and stupid comments don't help or achieve anything...

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

SX2002 wrote:

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And we all know cowboy boots are better than tennis shoes. Therefore everyone should wear the former, even athletes and those that don’t are idiots. Just imagine how Pele could have kicked with real men’s boots. And who needs cleats on golfing shoes? And anyone who doesn’t worship Canon should be sent to a mental institution because you have to be crazy to buy any other brand. That’s why I have that Rebel XI, so people won’t think I’m crazy. I need a bumper sticker saying,”My other camera is a Canon “.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

SX2002 wrote:

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9 or so mount changes.
All your lenses must be very recent because if you look at the long laundry list of Nikon AF lenses that are incompatible, will not AF or meter properly you will comprehend.
I can take a over 30 year old film AF EOS lens and it will function 100%perfect with a R 10 and have enhanced features to boot.
Not even remotely close with Nikon and everyone but you know this.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

Architect1776 wrote:

9 or so mount changes.
All your lenses must be very recent because if you look at the long laundry list of Nikon AF lenses that are incompatible, will not AF or meter properly you will comprehend.
I can take a over 30 year old film AF EOS lens and it will function 100%perfect with a R 10 and have enhanced features to boot.
Not even remotely close with Nikon and everyone but you know this.

That’s interesting because I have Nikon lenses that could be your lens’ father or grandfather and I have no problem using them on more modern Nikons. On the bottom tier camera models (mostly those without a focus motor) I have to operate the camera just like we did with our old manual film cameras. The mid and top tier models (generally those with a camera focus motor) expose automatically just fine. Even an old Vivitar manual lens with a Nikon mount operates just fine. I can’t say one way or another with the newest models or mirrorless.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

bikinkawboy wrote:

That’s interesting because I have Nikon lenses tha... (show quote)

So they have 100% functionality?
Any old manual lens regardless of make will fit and work manually.
You fail to say that from the AF era that a whole crap load of your old lenses do NOT work as designed but are as "Dumb" as an old manual lens.
I use old 1950's lenses just fine on my current camera and set mode to: P, A, S or M and get great results with those old lenses.
So no big deal what you say.
I can put any EF/EFs lens on the RF mount camera and get 100% full features and more with the control ring.
Nikon can NOT even dream of doing that and never will.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

An old AI lens on a D7000 using the A setting. Other than focusing manually, I pushed the button and you can see the result. Appears to be working just fine to me.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

True, I must use the A or M setting but dumb lenses work just fine. As do the auto focus lenses since the D7000 and D800 both have the in camera lens motor. And I can program the focal length and max aperture of any old lens into the camera so that it can correctly set the flash. The manual says that an IX Nikor lens won’t work. I have no idea of what those lenses are, so now I’m curious.

Do you have any Nikons of your own?

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

I checked, the IX is that oddball lens for the oddball APS Pronea camera. Incidentally, the lens on the camera is an old Vivitar 28mm 2.8. As for 100% functionality, remember that earlier I mentioned the camera models without the in camera lens motor. To use an older screw Auto focus lens on my D40 or D5100, I must focus manually. So in that respect, you are correct about not having full functionality but that’s just the older cheaper cameras. The screw focus lenses work just fine on the D50, D80, D7000 and D800. I can use a fully manual lens on my D80, but must manually set the shutter speed and aperture using the M mode. The D7000 and D800 auto expose perfectly with the old manual lenses.

Now if you are referring to the newest Nikons, as I said earlier, I don’t know what will and won’t work. But on my upper tier cameras, you are in error.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

bikinkawboy wrote:

An old AI lens on a D7000 using the A setting. Other than focusing manually, I pushed the button and you can see the result. Appears to be working just fine to me.

How's the AF with the Z cameras with the older AF lenses?
Worthless.
How's the AF with original EF/EF-S lenses on R cameras?
Absolutely perfect.
How's the aperture control on older Nikon AF lenses?
Worthless.
How's the aperture control with original EF/EF-S lenses?
Absolutely perfect.
Nikon with all its mount changes then going Z made hundreds of lenses lose functionality.
PS, try your stunt shown in your example with a D5xxx or D3xxx camera.
Total failure.
Why?
Too many obsolete lenses due to mount changes.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

Had you read my posts a bit closer, you would have noticed what I said about needing to manually adjust on the low tier cameras, which include the 3000 & 5000 series. You will also notice that I have a 5100, so you don’t need to tell me something I already know. If you had read before replying you would have also noticed that I said I did not know about the newest or mirrorless models. And if you were talking about the Z models, maybe you should have been more specific instead of generalizing.

And couldn’t your same argument have been used when Canon released their first digital cameras and the film area lenses would not work on the new digitals?

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

bikinkawboy wrote:

Had you read my posts a bit closer, you would have... (show quote)

Canon didn't pull the idiot smoke and mirrors stunt then.
They admitted that they were going 21st century with a system that put Nikon and all others into the stone age for at least a decade.
Canon then made sure that the cheapest to the most expensive camera worked 100% with all the EF lenses. Unlike Nikon that when they finally figured out how to put a motor into a lens then built D5xxx and D3xxx that would not function with any previous lenses.
But the Cheapest Rebel would work perfectly with all EF lenses.
Just admit it.
Nikon has tons of compatibility issues and has had them for years.