Flash Photography Dangerous in Aquarium Setting (Page 5): Very interesting. A few years ago when my wife and I were in Hawaii we went to the aquarium in Honolulu. As an avid...

steveorinosteve Loc: Tipp City, Ohio

Very interesting. A few years ago when my wife and I were in Hawaii we went to the aquarium in Honolulu. As an avid photographer I took my camera and asked as we entered if flash photography was allowed. At the entrance, there was a guy who had an important looking badge around his neck greeting all of the visitors. I asked him if I could take flash pictures and he replied, "Of course!". And I did. Got some good photos. But I will never do that again. Thank you!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

MDI Mainer wrote:

If the goings on here are a microcosm of our society, to put it mildly, that's NOT GOOD! E.L. Shapiro

I sometimes thing we are regressing to the days of the gladiators in the Coliseum, but I really had no idea this post would elicit some of these deplorable reactions.

Right. "Tough" has replaced "polite."

kbk

Cafeteria now serving tuna salad on white bread with a side of tuna sushi.

pego101

MDI Mainer wrote:

At a public aquarium recently, a gaggle of tourists using flash apparently caused a tuna fish to become disoriented and swim at the tank wall at full speed, resulting in the death of the specimen in full (and gory) view of the visitors.

Thank you for this important announcement

pego101

MDI Mainer wrote:

At a public aquarium recently, a gaggle of tourists using flash apparently caused a tuna fish to become disoriented and swim at the tank wall at full speed, resulting in the death of the specimen in full (and gory) view of the visitors.

Where is the link to the actual story?

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

pego101 wrote:

Where is the link to the actual story?

It’s in the thread. There’s also another post with a link to a better quality video than the story link.

kbk

Cafeteria now serving tuna salad on white bread with a side of tuna sushi.

pego101

billnikon wrote:

What Aquarium? Did you witness this? Did you duly report it to administration? Where there signs against flash?

Made the story up I think to get attention

jack schade Loc: La Pine Oregon

Thanks for the post.

jack

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

pego101 wrote:

Made the story up I think to get attention

The OP posted a link to the story, and you are still claiming he made it up? Go back and actually read the thread.

texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas

Disregard. I found my post, in my fevered search (literally with the flu) I simply did not go far enough.

texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas

Robertl594 wrote:

I used to go to the zoo to take photos of the anim... (show quote)

This is NOT an attack on Robert, since I do not know him, his work, and fully believe everyone has a right to their opinion. But, when I see what I think is a statement that may send a message to who may not understand the total picture and be influenced by this statement, I feel an obligation to tell the other side of the story so at least you can may an objective decision. Again Robert, I have no reason to not consider you a good person and photographer and I am addressing the general meaning of your statement, not your total persona. In short, I do not like conflict.

It is a good thing I have two hands, because your comments make me agree on one hand, but disagree on the other. I apologize to the hoggers reading this who do not find this post to be pertinent to photography, but when I consider what I believe is an uninformed accusation that has the potential of affecting views of future photographers, which may affect my ability to continue the pursuit of my interests, simply because someone disagrees, and again in my opinion without merit.

The fact is, due to irresponsible harvesting of wild animals through poaching the many animals roaming free in large numbers are at critical levels. Many studies show that it is not the fault of sportsmen hunters for the demise of the herds. There are strict limits imposed and every hunt is strictly regulated and observed by people dedicated to the welfare of the animals in questioned. The money brought in by these approved hunts bring much needed revenue to villagers and country alike. Seldom are carcasses left to rot in the African sun, such as poachers do. The meat provided by the hunt are shared by local villagers, which bring meat for weeks to come. In fact, the number of animals culled by the government to prevent wide spread starvation and death from disease, far exceeds the numbers from sports hunting. This practice expends money and resources, instead of the opposite.

Responsible hunters in this country recognized the problem years ago, and through their efforts and money, promoted and helped pass laws that restrict the number of game animals that can be harvested each season. Consequently, wild game populations have rebounded in the country to levels never seen, even prior to the Europeans arriving.

I have a friend who is so far to the left, she has to counterbalance herself to walk. She makes PETA look like a bunch of meat-eaters. She has the same idea about zoos as you stated, at least she once did. I took her with me on a visit to our local zoo and pointed out how most modern zoos have gravitated away from small cages and have developed enclosures that more mimic their natural habitat, providing open areas where they have some freedom to move around. And no, I'm not foolish enough to suggest they somehow teleported the African Savanna to your local zoo, but zoos today have taken a conservational view about the care of their animals.

As we walked through the grounds, I pointed out the number of animals that no longer existed in the wild in sufficient numbers for you to view them, providing you could afford to travel to see them. We can certainly have that conversation in the future, but that isn't the topic today.

Modern (and responsible) zoos have migrated (no pun intended) to being repositories of the gene pools of the animals in their care. For some animals, no one today would have an opportunity to see them alive if it wasn't for zoos. Some zoos, such as the Columbus Zoo and Wildlife Park, have taken animal habitat to the next level. The Bronx Zoo, while not as extensive as Columbus, highlight the care and concern for welfare of their animals as their highest priority.

There are many more zoos and wildlife parks in this country, including some in Texas, that have taken on the fight to preserve what wildlife we have left. Which brings me to my final point that convinced my friend that I am not a knuckle dragging Neanderthal. A number of zoos are preserving as much as possible, the DNA of nearly extinct animals, in the event of the demise of their species in the wild. There are serious programs being develop for future repopulating back into the wild, once control is established in those areas to prevent further decimation.

Much of the money to support and improve the above zoos come from the visitors who pay, either through fees or taxes, admission to see the animals. Zoo programs educate young and old alike with reasons we humans should be conservators of our resources, preserving our bounty for future generations.

Wildlife programs, require financial support that comes almost exclusively from the hunters who participate in conservation of game, and who years ago, voluntarily requested game limits and fees to preserve the sport for future generations. These same programs promote healthier herds and limit widespread starvation seen in the wild. You may disagree with what you consider blood sports, but the fact is this pseudo concern for taking care of our resources is seldom supported financially by the PETA crowd, the ecologically extreme, Greenpeace and the naïve. I'm not totally opposed to some of the ideas these organizations promote, I just believe you should balance any extreme idea with common sense, and put your money where mouth is.

To make all of the above work, it is imperative that we educate current and future citizens that we are stewards of our world, and it is our responsibility, no, our mandate, to leave our world a better place that we found it.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

jerryc41 wrote:

Right. "Tough" has replaced "polite."

Tough is better than squishy! But polite is good too, under the right circumstances!

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

texasdigital wrote:

This is NOT an attack on Robert, since I do not know him, his work, and fully believe everyone has a right to their opinion. But, when I see what I think is a statement that may send a message to who may not understand the total picture and be influenced by this statement, I feel an obligation to tell the other side of the story so at least you can may an objective decision. Again Robert, I have no reason to not consider you a good person and photographer and I am addressing the general meaning of your statement, not your total persona. In short, I do not like conflict.

It is a good thing I have two hands, because your comments make me agree on one hand, but disagree on the other. I apologize to the hoggers reading this who do not find this post to be pertinent to photography, but when I consider what I believe is an uninformed accusation that has the potential of affecting views of future photographers, which may affect my ability to continue the pursuit of my interests, simply because someone disagrees, and again in my opinion without merit.

The fact is, due to irresponsible harvesting of wild animals through poaching the many animals roaming free in large numbers are at critical levels. Many studies show that it is not the fault of sportsmen hunters for the demise of the herds. There are strict limits imposed and every hunt is strictly regulated and observed by people dedicated to the welfare of the animals in questioned. The money brought in by these approved hunts bring much needed revenue to villagers and country alike. Seldom are carcasses left to rot in the African sun, such as poachers do. The meat provided by the hunt are shared by local villagers, which bring meat for weeks to come. In fact, the number of animals culled by the government to prevent wide spread starvation and death from disease, far exceeds the numbers from sports hunting. This practice expends money and resources, instead of the opposite.

Responsible hunters in this country recognized the problem years ago, and through their efforts and money, promoted and helped pass laws that restrict the number of game animals that can be harvested each season. Consequently, wild game populations have rebounded in the country to levels never seen, even prior to the Europeans arriving.

I have a friend who is so far to the left, she has to counterbalance herself to walk. She makes PETA look like a bunch of meat-eaters. She has the same idea about zoos as you stated, at least she once did. I took her with me on a visit to our local zoo and pointed out how most modern zoos have gravitated away from small cages and have developed enclosures that more mimic their natural habitat, providing open areas where they have some freedom to move around. And no, I'm not foolish enough to suggest they somehow teleported the African Savanna to your local zoo, but zoos today have taken a conservational view about the care of their animals.

As we walked through the grounds, I pointed out the number of animals that no longer existed in the wild in sufficient numbers for you to view them, providing you could afford to travel to see them. We can certainly have that conversation in the future, but that isn't the topic today.

Modern (and responsible) zoos have migrated (no pun intended) to being repositories of the gene pools of the animals in their care. For some animals, no one today would have an opportunity to see them alive if it wasn't for zoos. Some zoos, such as the Columbus Zoo and Wildlife Park, have taken animal habitat to the next level. The Bronx Zoo, while not as extensive as Columbus, highlight the care and concern for welfare of their animals as their highest priority.

There are many more zoos and wildlife parks in this country, including some in Texas, that have taken on the fight to preserve what wildlife we have left. Which brings me to my final point that convinced my friend that I am not a knuckle dragging Neanderthal. A number of zoos are preserving as much as possible, the DNA of nearly extinct animals, in the event of the demise of their species in the wild. There are serious programs being develop for future repopulating back into the wild, once control is established in those areas to prevent further decimation.

Much of the money to support and improve the above zoos come from the visitors who pay, either through fees or taxes, admission to see the animals. Zoo programs educate young and old alike with reasons we humans should be conservators of our resources, preserving our bounty for future generations.

Wildlife programs, require financial support that comes almost exclusively from the hunters who participate in conservation of game, and who years ago, voluntarily requested game limits and fees to preserve the sport for future generations. These same programs promote healthier herds and limit widespread starvation seen in the wild. You may disagree with what you consider blood sports, but the fact is this pseudo concern for taking care of our resources is seldom supported financially by the PETA crowd, the ecologically extreme, Greenpeace and the naïve. I'm not totally opposed to some of the ideas these organizations promote, I just believe you should balance any extreme idea with common sense, and put your money where mouth is.

To make all of the above work, it is imperative that we educate current and future citizens that we are stewards of our world, and it is our responsibility, no, our mandate, to leave our world a better place that we found it.

This is NOT an attack on Robert, since I do not kn... (show quote)

While don’t hunt I understand those that do and I’ve often enjoyed venison from friends. I understand the sport of it and though I don’t hunt I love the outdoors. That being said I think big game hunting is an entirely different thing. There’s no sport to it. It’s rich guys having guides find them an animal to shoot for a trophy. It’s a heinous offense.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

SuperflyTNT wrote:

While don’t hunt I understand those that do and I’ve often enjoyed venison from friends. I understand the sport of it and though I don’t hunt I love the outdoors. That being said I think big game hunting is an entirely different thing. There’s no sport to it. It’s rich guys having guides find them an animal to shoot for a trophy. It’s a heinous offense.

NOT true. Not even close!